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The man behind the numbers

By Michael Barone
Posted 2/8/04

Ask just about anyone in the political world who the most controversial pollster is, and you'll get the same answer: John Zogby. Some in the political world swear by him; others swear at the mention of his name. Zogby admits that some of his methods are unorthodox. But his numbers have sometimes been far closer to election results than other pollsters', as when he showed the surge toward Al Gore in the last three days of the 2000 presidential campaign.

Zogby, 55, did not start off to be a pollster. He grew up in a Lebanese-American family in gritty Utica, N.Y. He taught history and political science at area colleges and was, in his words, "a left-wing political activist." In 1981 he and his brother James, now head of the Arab-American Institute, started a political consulting firm. They parted in 1984, and John Zogby became a full-time consultant, making political ads, advising on strategy, helping fundraising, and conducting polls in campaigns in upstate New York. As the demand for polling grew, he dropped the other work.

Zogby's controversial reputation among politicos has not prevented him from attracting commercial clients. He has conducted surveys for big corporations like Altria, Coca-Cola, Microsoft, Cisco, and MCI on public attitudes, customer and employee satisfaction, and lobbying issues and for nonprofits like the United Way and St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.

Zogby's breakthrough came in 1994, when he was polling for a group of upstate radio stations and the New York Post. In late October others showed New York Gov. Mario Cuomo leading in his race for re-election. Zogby showed Republican challenger George Pataki ahead. Pataki won, and Zogby became a nationally known pollster. In 1997, he showed New Jersey Gov. Christie Whitman leading by 1 percentage point--the final margin--while others had her far ahead. His results drew contracts from Reuters in 1996 and MSNBC in 2000.

In 2000 Zogby drew maximum attention. During much of October, George W. Bush had small leads over Al Gore in most polls. But after the news on the Thursday before the election of Bush's 1976 DUI, Zogby's tracking polls showed movement to Gore and ended with him in the lead. Gore did indeed win the popular vote, and in some quarters Zogby was hailed as a prophet.

But not among many of his fellow pollsters. Zogby admits that some of his methods are unusual. Most pollsters use random digit dialing so they won't miss those with unlisted numbers. Zogby says there is no political difference between people with listed and unlisted phones, and his interviewers call only listed numbers. "It reduces caller fatigue and unproductive interviews," he says. Most pollsters place calls only in the evening, when most people are home; Zogby's interviewers call all day long and, he says, reach people who aren't reachable from 6 to 9 p.m.

"Zogby is not a reputable pollster," opines Warren Mitofsky, head of Mitofsky International, one of the two firms conducting 2004 exit polls for the broadcast and cable news networks. "He is more a salesman and a self-promoter than a pollster."

Polling as art. Most controversial is Zogby's weighting of poll results not only by the customary demographic factors but also by party identification, to get what he considers the right percentages of Republicans and Democrats. Zogby says he also adjusts results according to his feel for what is happening on the ground. Preposterous, say most pollsters. Justified, say Zogby fans. "There's artwork involved," says Zogby. "I'm not a statistician, I'm a historian. I'm used to using soft methods." On the day before the New Hampshire primary, Zogby reported that John Kerry was leading Howard Dean by just 31 to 28 percent--much closer than in other tracking polls. To get that result he included for the first time those leaning toward a candidate. Then on primary day, he announced that Kerry's lead in the two-day tracking had risen to 37 to 24 percent--a big shift, reflecting undecideds who went for Kerry.

But that one day's tracking was based on a small sampling of only about 350 respondents. Sneered Slate.com's Mickey Kaus: "Here is that final Zogby New Hampshire poll describing a huge Kerry miracle surge, undetected by others, that just happens to bring Zogby into line with other polls."

Zogby admits mistakes. "I blew some states," especially the 2002 Illinois gubernatorial and Colorado Senate races. But, he brags, "There were a number of states I got right, and no one else did." He knows that other pollsters look askance at his methods. But it's also true that everyone in the political world and many in business are eager to see his latest results.

This story appears in the February 16, 2004 print edition of U.S. News & World Report.

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