Large Hadron Collider Revs Up

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yay now i dont need to worry about the world ending

Damien of VT 6:06AM April 07, 2010

Bruce V. Williams posits, "God is the One who reveals, and the One who hides. We can not fathom God."
Don't believe everything you read on your belly button lint. Seriously.
He asks, "Is it by chance that the earth has so much water, that it tilts at just the right angle, and it revolves around the sun at just the right distance?"
Yes, because Earth was not built for us, we evolved to fit the conditions. Had the conditions been different, you would, presumably, be extolling as proof of a divine Being the amazing facts that it had no axial tilt, little or no of that poison known as water and was close enough to the Sun provide us with the comfortable 250 degree days we needed for life.

GalapagosPete of CA 1:31AM April 01, 2010

bc says, "A more honest and true statement might be " All the evidence that I have viewed has led me to " Believe "that the "Intelligent Design theory" is wrong."
Or even better: "A lack of either evidence or necessity for an intelligence being behind the existence of the universe, it is reasonable to conclude that no such being exists. Mere ignorance does not justify invoking gods-of-the-gaps."
bc concludes, "We " Know " nothing, but we " Believe " that we do."
Speak for yourself. Yes, yes, we may all be inside The Matrix and not realize it, but is that truly how you want to live your life? If you "know nothing" then you concede that you don't know what you are talking about, or even if you're talking to anyone, or if what you're saying makes sense.

GalapagosPete of CA 1:23AM April 01, 2010

Well, Joe, we don't yet have answers to some of those questions, and possibly never will. But neither do you, and ignorance is no excuse for making up gods as an "answer." That's no answer, it's the best primitive people could do, but these days it's a cop-out.

GalapagosPete of CA 1:10AM April 01, 2010

"Anybody want to take a guess at what or who must have been this source?"
No. Uninformed guessing - aka making up stories out of thin air - is for religions; science works to find out.

GalapagosPete of CA 1:07AM April 01, 2010

God is the One who reveals, and the One who hides. We can not fathom God. Is it by chance that the earth has so much water, that it tilts at just the right angle, and it revolves around the sun at just the right distance?

Bruce V. Williams of ME 9:39PM March 31, 2010

When I read: "Intelligent Design view . . .is wrong "
I had to chuckle.
Here's a statement from a scientificly oriented mind that is quite Non-Scientific.
A more honest and true statement might be
" All the evidence that I have viewed has led me to " Believe "
that the "Intelligent Design theory" is wrong.
Time and Time again, absoloute truths have been exposed as the illusions
that they often are.
We " Know " nothing, but we " Believe " that we do.

-bc of NH 6:48PM March 31, 2010

Where did the pot, the water and the heat source come from?
Where did the early universe come from?
The stone, the ground and the force of gravity came from where again?
The gas and the area of universe came from?
Wow, it I actually have to just make up a belief system to believe there is no belief system to explain where all of this stuff came from that made al of this other stuff that didn't have a creator. That's hilarious.
in the article, where does the proton come from? it is too intricate to come form nothing.

joe Wood of KY 3:43PM March 31, 2010

A pot of boiling water does not need intelligence to be hot.
The early universe compressed into a finite and very small space did not need intelligence to be hot.
A stone falling to the ground does not need intelligence to respond to the force of gravity.
So an area of space filled with gas and under the influence of gravity does not need intelligence to form galaxies.
The "Intelligent Design" view of the formation and evolution of the universe is wrong.

Warren Sampson of MN 3:21PM March 31, 2010

If anything is deducted from these accelerator experiments, it should be this:
that all detected energy in the known universe had a SOURCE. Morning light in our eyes left the sun 8 minutes earlier. That light was the result of photons escaping from the sun's 27 million degree Fahrenheit core. And, naturally, all other forms of radiation reaching earth's surface have explicable heavenly body sources. It's both logical and scientific that an energy's source can be traced back to a specific origin.
Now... let's introduce the 'Big Bang' theory into this. Wikipedia states, in part: "Universe has expanded from a primordial hot and dense initial condition at some finite time in the past (best available measurements in 2009 suggest that the initial conditions occurred around 13.3 to 13.9 billion years ago[3][4]), and continues to expand to this day." Question: What was the source of that "primordial hot and dense initial condition"? Answer: It had to be a source with practically (in not actually) unlimited amounts of energy and likely with enough intelligence and forethought to have continued guiding the whole process of galaxy-building, solar system organizing and planet forming. Anybody want to take a guess at what or who must have been this source?

Steven Olson of NY 2:27PM March 31, 2010