Leasing Car Batteries to the Power Company

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By Janet Raloff, for Science News' Science & the Public Blog

SAN DIEGO — Most people, on average, drive their cars only an hour or two a day. The rest of the time, those pricey vehicles sit parked on the street or in some garage. But if those cars had a big bank of batteries – typical of today’s gasoline hybrids or soon-to-hit-the-road plug-in hybrids – they could be earning their owners money while sitting parked. Maybe $5 to $10 a day, just by serving as a back-up energy-storage system for the electric-utility grid.

Or at least that’s the idea behind the V2G – vehicle-to-grid – movement. A panel of experts described the promise (and hinted at some of the pitfalls) of this power-sharing arrangement, where people agree to effectively lease their cars’ batteries, when they’re not in use, to the power company. It was part of a preview for reporters of a symposium to take place early tomorrow, here at the American Association for the Advancement of Science annual meeting.

To reinforce that V2G is not just a theoretical construct, Tom Gage, president of AC Propulsion in San Dimas, Calif., drove his personally customized V2G-hybrid car from Los Angeles yesterday and into the San Diego Convention Center. It was a big show-and-tell element, parked just a few feet away from the V2G panelists in a second floor meeting room. Hooked up to a meter, it communicated with PJM Interconnection of Valley Forge, Pa., throughout the press conference. PJM, which is responsible for coordinating the movement of wholesale electricity throughout the grid in all or parts of 13 states and the District of Columbia, has been participating in three V2G projects. They included the Mid-Atlantic Grid Interactive Car Consortium, better known as MAGICC.

From time to time, as power demand rose a little, PJM would ask Gage’s car to share some of the power stored in its batteries. Later, when the grid had a little too much generation feeding into it, the company would instruct the grid to dump a trickle of that excess back into the car’s batteries. Real-time details of this computer-controlled power sharing between the grid and Gage’s car (along with two others) were displayed on a screen at the front of the room.

At least initially, the dozens of reporters listening to today’s five speakers had trouble understanding why owners would want to put their cars’ batteries on the line to help out the power company. The problem was that Ken Huber of PJM and his fellow panelists kept emphasizing the public good of sharing our batteries with the grid – without explaining the benefits and putative protections for the owner and vehicle.

Indeed, the speakers initially conveyed the impression that the grid could and would draw down a car’s battery, for a fee, and then let the owner replenish the charge on his or her dime.

Once Huber understood the confusion, he pointedly emphasize that “We are not discharging or charging the vehicles.” Rather, he said, “the regulation signal that we’re sending out varies around zero” – taking and then replacing, over and over again, small quantities of electricity. “So over the course of a day,” Huber said, the batteries “will have charged and discharged just the same amount.” Meaning there should be no net loss of charge on the vehicle. While parked, the vehicle probably will be charging. And owing to the power sharing arrangement, he acknowledged, “we’re varying that charge rate a little bit. But just a little bit – a small percentage.”

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Gordon: This is a service that the electric companies are already buying. It is currently provided by natural gas plants. If the service were provided by EVs, it would cost less to the grid operator, so less to the customers.

And yes, you can fill your garage with batteries and do this, but if you're buying the expensive batteries and the expensive power electronics, why not get a rolling chassis to put them in, and have a car. Also, you'll still have to coordinate with an aggrigator, because you won't be able to fit (or afford) enough to get to the 1MW level that the grid operator wants for a contract.

of: The infrastructure is already there. Transmission & Distribution (T&D) infrastructure is associated with pushing huge amounts of power from central generation facilities out to neighborhoods. Since this energy storage is in the neighborhoods, it in most instances will reduce the amount of T&D needed.

Nat of DE 10:10AM February 25, 2010

If it only costs around $500 to hookup a battery bank, can I convert my entire garage into a battery bank substation? Forget the car, I'll just buy batteries and shelving.

btw, Does this mean higher electric rates for normal people? Who is paying the the electric company so they can pay us?

Gordon Geko of CA 6:23AM February 23, 2010

I wonder how much new infrastructure will have to be created to put the Battery power back into the grid when the vehicles are not using the battery, and will the power companies cooperate with

the new paradigm

of 4:30PM February 21, 2010

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