Ancient Lemurs Take Bite Out of Evolutionary Tree

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This will do nothing but satisfy my desire to slap you up side your empty head- however; your an idiot and with people like you in this world it makes it almost impossible to grow as whole! Maybe instead of spending your next 6 sundays in a structured currupt church- you should look at some hard facts vs your uneducated narrow minded opinion!

casey lefler of WA 10:39PM April 27, 2010

That's all hypothetical guesses and statements of faith. The reason thermodynamics is considered a law means that it is scientific fact for this universe. It is not up to opinion on whether it is true or not.

The common traits seen in living organisms do not mean we are descendants of a common ancestor. Rather, it just means we all have the fundamental characeteristics for living things to exist. Nothing more. Also, the fossil record does not show dogs being anything other than dogs.

Infinity is concept only, not an actual and obtainable number. Most, if not all, mathematicians agree with this. You can never have one infinity of anything; it simply is impossible.

Just because you have the needed ingredients for life does not mean life must come into existence. Just because I have all the ingredients for a cake in a kitchen near a preheated oven does not necessarily mean a cake is going to form all by itself. This is why spontaneous generation can not be scientifically plausible.

However, an itelligent creator could very well have done all of this.

Patrick of KY 3:53PM November 12, 2009

never always been dogs. They and we share the same origin, which was neither dog nor human. And the universe is so infinite that life by random is more than likely. Earth is probably so perfect for life that life just had to be. If life is random, it makes it even more enjoyable.

The law of thermodynamic is not proven, it's just that no one has managed to falsifie it yet. And it may very well be invalid under conditions were we have no way of validating it.

Jonas 9:36AM November 12, 2009

It's not scientificlly plausible. Life on this planet is too complex for random chance. Look at a cell. There are several machines called organelles that must be made correctly or else a cell would not survive very long or function properly. If it could not function properly, then nature would not "select" it to continue to evolve. Also, somethings on earth are irreducibly complex, like mitosis and the bacterium flagellum. Also, the fossil record does not support the theory of evolution.

Of course, thermodynamics is a law. It is a fact. Evolution is at best a theory, though it is more like a hypothesis. Micro-evolution does exist and we see it in the variations of a species. (Example: there are several dog breeds, but they are all dogs.) I do not believe macro-evolution because we have yet to see living organisms becoming different species (i.e.: dogs becoming something other than dogs).

It is possible that God could have used evolution, however it seems very unlikely that He did.

Also, why do people have a sense of purpose if they are products of random process in a meaningless universe? Where did we get the idea of absolute morals?

Patrick of KY 8:16AM November 12, 2009

the law of thermodynamics, but not in evolution?

Jonas 3:20AM November 12, 2009

So grok, you are obviously offended by what I believe and for the fact that I am posting them, but I have threatened you or anyone else?

If not, then how are people like me "far from harmless"?

You would agree the universe does exist, yes? Well, how did it come into being without a creator? Let us reason through it:

Carl Sagan in his Cosmos series believed the universe was eternal. This certainly would get rid of the need for a creator. However, the law of thermodynamics says energy is gradually going from a state of being usable to a state of being unusable. This is called entropy. If the universe was eternal, entropy would have set in and the universe would be dead. However, stars are burning balls of nuclear furnaces and there is life on earth (which requires energy). Because of this, the universe is neither eternal nor dead.

What about if the universe came from nothing? Again, there would be no need for a creator. But this would contradict the law of conservation. This law says nothing comes into or out of existence. It is merely replaced. This is why you must account for each element and number of atoms of each element in both sides of a chemical equation. The only way for the universe to suddenly exist from nothing would require something, or someone, who is not bound to the laws of physics.

Of course, you might say the universe is eternal and it is just constantly expanding and collapsing on itself after reaching a certain point. Well again you would run into the problem of entropy. Also, it would be impossible for the universe to be eternal for another reason. Let's say you set up some dominos (standing up) in any design you wanted. Will adding another domino cause the rest to fall over? No. Something outside of the dominos would have to make them fall over. This cause would naturally be an uncaused cause to the dominos. Now let's replace the dominos with the universe. No matter how many times you add a beginning universe, it will not cause itself to expand or collapse into a new universe. Something would have to start that chain reaction. This thing would be an uncaused cause to the universes. So in the end, the universe still has a creator.

One more thing, how do humans get a sense of absolute morals from random acts of a purposeless process called evolution?

Patrick of KY 1:14PM November 08, 2009

Xian ideologs on the warpath are hysterical, ridiculous, pathetic -- and very, very dangerous; and AFAIC represent a growing fascist danger to us all. If they could simply close down this kind of stuff instead of only being able to whinge and proselytize all over it -- trying to bury it, and intimidate us -- they'd do it in a heartbeat.

This is what a decaying and desperate old order looks like. It ain't pretty -- and it's far from harmless.

grok 1:00AM November 07, 2009

God knows that we deserve the worst, but He doesn't want us to receive it. So He offers us a way to escape damnation because He wants all men to be saved (I Timothy 2:4).

No, there was not a "white guy" walking around in the first century talking about Christianity. But there were Greeks, Egyptians, Ethiopians, Romans, and Jews spreading the gospel. And before them, a Jewish carpenter of Palestine was teaching, healing, and fulfilling the prophecies made about Him. A close look shows that the Bible is greater than Aesop's fables, and its truths last beyond childhood. I suggest reading Josh McDowell's book The New Evidence that Demands a Verdict. In it you will find that the Bible is very much unique in comparison to other "holy books", bedtime stories, and so forth.

Patrick of KY 6:39PM November 05, 2009

The bible is just a story. It's like the books we read our kids about how to behave when they grow up. You seriously believe a white guy was wandering around the middle east 2009 years ago preaching about christianity? lol.

Dave of WA 3:19PM November 05, 2009

is a myth. Adam and Eve have never existed. And I don't need a God who thinks we deserve the worst.

Jonas 3:26AM November 05, 2009

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