John McCain and Barack Obama on Whether to Spread the Wealth

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I can`t believe Barack Obama won.I got to say he put up a good fight against John Mccain.Although I was voting for John Mccain

I did not care who really won,as long as they both keep there words and fight for america.

of 7:56AM November 05, 2008

I have deduced a disastrous result of Senator Obama's economic plan, which no one seems to have explored in the media or via the Internet. It is as follows....

1- Senator Obama purposes to raise taxes to those making yearly over $250.000 by 3%.

The overlooked problem with his proposal, that unfortunately no one has dove into is, Family's with Children.

What if Family A - Who makes $250.000 yearly, has four small children and a

$400.000 dollar mortgage.

Compared to

Family B - who makes $250.000 yearly, has no children and a $100.000 mortgage.

Senator Obama's plan is not factoring children who require school costs, larger living quarters, higher insurance's, food, clothing, daycare and so forth. While those without children, a low mortgage and living in a smaller home, can possibly survive this plan a bit further.

With this Spread the wealth plan, Senator Obama is jeopardizing more than small businesses. It is everything he is saying he will protect. Education, Insurance's, Children and Home Mortgages.

Will Senator Obama's plan be different for a bachelor without any children at

$250.000 yearly?

Compared to

A Family of 5 earning $250.000 yearly.

It would take Trillions of dollars yearly to deduce how Senator Obama's plan would differ from ...

A - A Business who's owner was a self supportive Bachelor.

Or

B- A business who's owner has children and more costs in which to raise them adequately.

The main discussions of Senator Obama has been spreading the wealth to those less fortunate in their small businesses or endeavors. The term "Taking food from my children's mouth." Does seem to apply to his Spread the wealth proposal.

The costs are astronomical when you have children. Being he has two children of his own, I am very surprised that this plan left out what I have entitled

the "Family Clause ."

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Skyler James of CT 2:58AM October 31, 2008

Sept. 22nd,Letter from Alaska: The State of Sarah Palin in the New Yorker :

And Alaska—were set up, unlike other states in the union, where its collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we SHARE IN THE WEALTH when the development of these resources occurs. And she said, Our state constitution—it lays it out for me, how Im to conduct business with resource development here as the state C.E.O. Its to maximize benefits for Alaskans, not an individual company.

Folks do some research sarah palin has turned alaska into the most socialist state in the union alaska is on a state run welfare that is paid by the oil companies, no income tax, no sales tax, and a rebate check given to every citizen even those that dont work taken right from the profits of the oil companies, palins hypocrisy is beyond rediculous

Joe skinner of AK 10:08AM October 29, 2008

McCain has his interpretation of "spreading the wealth." Well, here's MY interpretation!

I am one of those hard working people he talks about, and I am tired of the fact that even though the productivity of the American worker steadily increases, our wages stagnate or decrease - while at the same time, the incomes of the richest in this country have increased to a point that is far beyond obscene.

When I was a kid, my dad worked for a company where everyone got profit sharing checks a couple times a year, and a nice Christmas bonus too. When's the last time you talked to someone who got a profit sharing check from their employer? Ten years ago? Twenty? Today, most people have never even heard of a profit sharing check because "profit" is something reserved for corporate executives and shareholders - NOT the rest of us.

All that new wealth that our increased productivity helped create goes straight into the pockets of CEOs and their fellow executives.

So yeah - damn straight - I want a redistribution of wealth!

McCain says "let's create new business and new wealth." Why? Just so we can have another batch of overpaid CEOs who get rich off their employees and pay them just enough to keep them from revolting?

I'll be the first to admit that the solution to this issue shouldn't have to involve taxes - people should just do the right thing. Unfortunately the rich and greedy don't tend to do the right thing. So if it takes a change in the tax plan to make things right, then so be it.

The vast majority of people don't want "welfare" - they just want a fair share of what they EARNED!

David of IN 4:16PM October 27, 2008

Those that say if you don't have redistribution of wealth, you have concentration of wealth are thinking in black or white not reality. In the past, and I believe one of the basic foundation blocks of our country, we all worked hard to the best of our abilities and enjoyed the fruits of our labor. We paid taxes to give our children schools, to insure interstate uniformity of purpose and to protect both our local communities and our national shores. We have grown into the world's greatest country with this backbone principle. As a "great country" we have expanded our government to provide for those, both in our country and without, who do not have, for whatever reason, the ability to "work hard and enjoy the fruits of their labor." Unfortunately, this process has gone on for so long that now, those that are receiving - and some of those who have- believe they are due MORE. Why is it that this "more" must come from the government (read "taxes")? Seems to me, the "more" should come from our hearts - not from mandated taxes. Democracy (the free marketplace)demands that individuals determine their social priorities and respond accordingly. This should NOT be a government mandate. Stop mandated "contributions" - mandated redistribution of wealth is NOT democracy.

Marie Peterson of FL 12:22PM October 27, 2008

Those that say if you don't have redistribution of wealth, you have concentration of wealth are thinking in black or white not reality. In the past, and I believe one of the basic foundation blocks of our country, we all worked hard to the best of our abilities and enjoyed the fruits of our labor. We paid taxes to give our children schools, to insure interstate uniformity of purpose and to protect both our local communities and our national shores. We have grown into the world's greatest country with this backbone principle. As a "great country" we have expanded our government to provide for those, both in our country and without, who do not have, for whatever reason, the ability to "work hard and enjoy the fruits of their labor." Unfortunately, this process has gone on for so long that now, those that are receiving - and some of those who have- believe they are due MORE. Why is it that this "more" must come from the government (read "taxes")? Seems to me, the "more" should come from our hearts - not from mandated taxes. Democracy (the free marketplace)demands that individuals determine their social priorities and respond accordingly. This should NOT be a government mandate. Stop mandated "contributions" - mandated redistribution of wealth is NOT democracy.

Marie Peterson of FL 12:22PM October 27, 2008

Wealth should not be spread, because it makes people who pay taxes have to pay for those who don't. Socialist illuminati feel this is what the economy needs, but they should know this could be the economy's worse nightmare.

Expressions of GA 5:37PM October 25, 2008

RNC: Obama 'Outside Law' on Donors

Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:40 PM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

The Republican National Committee on Thursday supplemented its Oct. 6 complaint to the Federal Election Committee and — citing new revelations by Newsmax and other news organizations — called on the FEC to “immediately conduct a full audit” of the Obama campaign accounts.

The RNC complaint asserts that the Obama campaign had demonstrated a “lack of compliance with the law” because of its acceptance of prohibited donations from foreign nationals, excessive contributions from individuals, and donations from unknown sources.

At the same time, RNC officials said they recognize that the FEC has “no authority” to freeze campaign accounts or to take other actions that would actually prevent the Obama campaign from spending money illegally obtained from foreign nationals to influence the U.S. presidential election.

“The system isn’t designed for actors who are going to ignore the law,” RNC chief legal counsel Sean Cairncross told Newsmax.

A Newsmax analysis of the Obama campaign’s campaign finance disclosures found 60,000 donations in unrounded amounts that fundraising experts said clearly suggested were “foreign currency transactions” translated into U.S. dollars.

The Obama campaign claims that many of these donations were purchases of T-shirts from the Obama store. However, when asked by Newsmax to provide an accounting for receipts and expenditures of the Obama store, Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt could only name a single supplier who sold merchandise worth less than $500,000, according to campaign records.

[Editor's Note: See "Obama Donations Enshrouded in Mystery."]

RNC chief counsel Sean Caircross commended Newsmax for reporting that helped to break open the secretive fundraising schemes used by the Obama campaign.

“The Newsmax articles constitute some of the exhibits to our original complaint,” he said. “We commend Newsmax and other media organizations who are doing a good job in looking into what seems to be a rather large issue for the Obama campaign.”

Reporting by Newsmax and others of fictitious donors such as “Family Guy” and “King Kong” made it “clear that the Obama For America campaign is operating outside of the law,” Cairncross said.

“The complete and total lack of any control mechanisms within the Obama campaign’s fundraising operation has undermined any confidence in their ability to curtail excessive, foreign, and fraudulent contributions and demands immediate attention from the Federal Election Commission (FEC),” he added.

The RNC now believes that the Obama campaign violated federal election law by “accepting contributions resulting from third party fraud, and possibly accepting contributions made in the name of another,” the complaint asserts.

Such contributions — made in the name of “Saddam Hussein,” “Osama bin Laden,” “OJ Simpson” and others — are the only violation of federal election law that carries a criminal penalty, RNC sources and outside campaign finance lawyers said.

While the Obama campaign has said repeatedly that they have procedures in place to screen out possible illegal donations, the spate of news reporting to the contrary shows that they have failed, the latest RNC complaint asserts.

“Developing a large donor base and raising enormous sums of money” — excuses commonly cited by the Obama campaign for the influx of illegal donations — “is not an excuse for ignoring the law.”

While the Obama campaign claims that it has “bent over backward” to root out illegal contributions, it has ignored contributions that were explicitly made by foreign nationals, the complaint says, citing an August 2008 report from the Associated Press.

The AP report identified Australian citizen Richard Watters, who contributed $1,000 to the Obama campaign via the Internet “by entering a fake U.S. passport number and checking a box stating that he was a U.S. citizen living abroad.”

In another case, a Canadian donor named Tom Sanderson gave $500 to the Obama campaign via the Internet, and included a note in one of the address fields stating, “I am not a (sic) American citizen!”

“From the moment it was made, the Sanderson contribution was clear on its face that it was coming to a foreign national,” the RNC complaint states.

Given that the Obama campaign couldn’t detect such an obvious violation of law, “it is unsurprising that (Obama for America) was also unable to detect contributions from unknown sources with blatantly fictitious names,” the complaint says.

The RNC complaint cites the “now infamous” cases of “Good Will” and “Doodad Pro,” which Newsmax helped to expose.

[Editor's Note: See "Secret, Foreign Money Floods Into Obama Campaign."]

The New York Times exposed contributions from other fictitious donors such as “Test Person,” residing in “Some Place, Utah,” and “Jockim Alberton,” residing at a fictional address in Wilmington, Delaware. They also cited donors giving the names “Derty West” and “Derty Poiuuy,” both residing in “rewq, ME.”

The Los Angeles Times found a series of contributions from “Mong Kong” that gave a nonexistent address. The Obama campaign said they were unaware of the illegality of these contributions until the press reports appeared.

Other contributions were comprised of randomly selected letters. The Obama campaign took 37 separate donations of $10 each from “Jgtj Jfggijfgi,” $7,497.59 from “Dahsudhu Hdusahfd,” and $11,900 from “Uadhshgu Hduadh.”

The RNC says it believes that while some of the contributors using fictitious names may have done so “in order to remain anonymous… Many of them may have been using fictitious names to skirt the law,” since their contributions were “far more than the $4,300 legal limit.”

Not only has the Obama campaign “accepted contributions from unknown sources, but it also may have accepted contributions made in the name of another,” the RNC said.

“A Newsmax investigation reports the existence of a growing trend to purchase disposable “gift” credit cards to make donations,” the complaint says, citing a report that appeared earlier this week.

[Editor's Note: See "Obama Turns Blind Eye to Credit Card Donation Fraud."]

“These 'gift' credit cards can only be tracked by the numbers, so there is no way of knowing who made the contribution,” the complaint states.

A Newsmax informant said he had made a series of $5 donations in less than an hour, each time using “a different name and address, all of which were obviously fictitious and some even including foreign addresses,” the RNC complaint states.

Among the fictitious donors were “Daffy Duck,” “Bart Simpson,” and “Raela Odinga.”

In addition, the RNC cited several media reports that said both personal and corporate credit cards had been charged with unauthorized contributions to the Obama campaign.

Ms. Patricia Phillips, a Virginia resident who also is a candidate for the State Senate, discovered a $5 charge on her corporate credit card statement for a contribution to the Obama campaign.

“Ms. Phillip’s situation is troublesome for two primary reasons,” the RNC complaint states. “First, OFA accepted a contribution from a corporate credit card,” which is illegal. “Second, OFA accepted a contribution that was fraudulently made.”

The Washington Post uncovered that donation, as well as a $2,300 contribution made to OFA that was charged to the credit card of Steve and Rachel Larman of Missouri without the couple’s knowledge.

As Republicans, they were surprised to receive their credit card statement and discover the donation to the Obama campaign.

The RNC complaint noted that, by all appearances, the Obama campaign had disabled standard security features on its fundraising website.

“For example, online merchants usually match the cardholders’ provided name and address to the credit card number to protect against fraud,” the RNC noted. But “given the high number of fictitious contributor names linked to credit card contributions, OFA appears not to be consistently following this practice.”

Even more troubling than these cases appearing in the Obama campaign’s itemized contributions is the $270 million that the campaign has taken from undisclosed sources.

“The RNC believes that widespread illegalities may exist among these un-itemized contributions and requests that the Commission immediately investigate both itemized and un-itemized contributions in both the OFA primary and general election periods to ensure a fair and open election.

“The American people deserve to know the origin of the over $600 million that may help elect a President of the United States,” the complaint concludes.

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

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Candy of PA 10:34AM October 25, 2008

Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit

Friday, October 24, 2008 4:16 PM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers.

The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg — a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton — alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus “ineligible” to run for president of the United States. It demands that Obama’s lawyers produce a copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen.

Berg's suit and allegations have set off a wave of Internet buzz and rumors, though Obama could easily have put the matter to rest by providing the federal court with the basic documentation proving he is eligible to take the oath of a president. But Obama has apparently decided to deny the court and the public that documentation.

The Constitution provides that any U.S. citizen is eligible to become president if the person is 35 years of age or older and is a natural-born citizen; that is, born in the territorial United States.

By failing to respond to the Request for Admissions and Request for the Production of Documents within 30 days, Obama has “admitted” that he was born in Kenya, Berg stated this week in new court filings.

Berg released a long list of “admissions” he submitted to Obama’s lawyers on Sept. 15, and asked that they produce documents relating to Obama’s place of birth and citizenship.

Instead of responding, lawyers for Obama and the DNC asked the court to dismiss the case. But Judge R. Barclay Surrick of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania has issued no ruling in the case that would have given Obama’s lawyers more time.

“There are lots of legal ways to stonewall,” a well-placed Republican attorney told Newsmax, who was not authorized to comment officially on the case. “But failing to respond is not one of them.”

“The first thing they teach you in law school,” he added, “is don’t put a complaint like this in a drawer. That’s how a nuisance case can become a problem.”

The 30-day deadline for defendants to comply with a discovery request is set forth in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedures.

“It all comes down to the fact that there's nothing from the other side,” Berg said after he filed a motion on Thursday for summary judgment.

“The admissions are there. By not filing the answers or objections, the defense has admitted everything. [Obama] admits he was born in Kenya. He admits he was adopted in Indonesia. He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States.”

In a contentious case, lawyers on both sides will haggle over the production of documents, and will frequently go beyond the deadlines, several lawyers told Newsmax.

“The rules are more often complied with in the breech rather than the observance,” a senior trial attorney who has close ties to the Democrat Party, but is not involved in the current case, told Newsmax.

“Lawyers frequently do not return telephone calls or meet discovery deadlines because of sheer inadvertence. Therefore, we do not consider a failure to respond as a ‘violation,’” he said.

Allegations surrounding Obama’s place of birth have been swirling for months. Earlier this year, the Obama campaign sought to put down the rumors by making available a computer-generated Certification of Live Birth, issued in 2007 by the State of Hawaii. [See the Certification of Live Birth — Click Here.]

Respected conservative blogger Ed Morrissey called the Berg lawsuit a “conspiracy theory” that had been put to rest by the Obama campaign over the summer but ”has arisen like a zombie yet again to suck the credibility out of the conservative blogosphere.”

However, the 2007 document produced by the Obama campaign omits key information that normally appears on birth certificates in the United States, including the name of the hospital where he was born, the size and weight of the baby, and sometimes the name of the doctor who delivered him.

In addition, the critics of the 2007 document note that Obama's father is described as “African,” a term used today. The formal language in official documents at the time — 1961 — would have identified his race as “Negro” or “Colored.”

The Web site snarkybytes.com has produced a vault copy of a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth from 1963, issued by the Hawaii Department of Health. [See the vault copy — Click Here.]

In addition to naming the hospital and more details about the baby, the 1963 vault copy also includes the “usual residence of the mother,” and the “usual occupation” of the father. None of this information appears on the 2007 Live Birth certificate produced by the Obama campaign.

Berg has been a perennial political candidate in Pennsylvania, having run in Democrat primaries for attorney general, lieutenant governor, governor, and other offices without success. He served as deputy attorney general of the State of Pennsylvania from 1972-1980.

His credibility was tarnished by work he did for the far-left “9/11 for the Truth” campaign, which alleged in a federal lawsuit that the collapse of the twin towers in New York was caused by “controlled demolition” ordered by the president of the United States.

Nevertheless, in recent weeks, lawsuits have been filed in seven additional states demanding that Barack Obama produce an original vault copy of his birth certificate, to dispel the rumors that he is not a natural-born United States citizen.

The latest suits have been filed in state and federal courts in Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia, New York, and Connecticut to compel Obama to release his birth records.

Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state superior courts to force the states’ secretary of state, as the chief state elections officer, to require Obama to produce original birth records from Hawaii, or else decertify him as a candidate for the presidency.

Ironically, Obama mentions his birth certificate in passing on Page 26 of his 1995 memoir, “Dreams of My Father.” “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,” he wrote.

Lawyers for Obama and the DNC did not return calls for comment on the current status of the case, or explain why the Obama campaign did not simply put to rest the whole controversy by releasing the birth certificate that Obama apparently cherished as a teenager.

In the past, questions about Sen. John McCain's legal status have arisen. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone at a U.S. Army hospital. McCain had legal experts vet his constitutional qualifications, and he also disclosed a copy of his birth certificate.

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

candyo of PA 10:25AM October 25, 2008

I was raised to be and am benevolent but if you work for your money the decision on how you "spread it around" should be your own. Why would anyone work if it's just going to be taken away and given to those who don't work? (I said don't - not can't)

Dana of GA 9:36AM October 24, 2008

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