The Tea Party Movement Is a Women's Movement

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Did that just say the girls are havin a Tea Party?

zabazoom of MN 2:03AM September 26, 2010

Did that just say the girls are havin a Tea Party?

zabazoom of MN 2:01AM September 26, 2010

So maybe the Tea Party candidates get their chance in November. So far they have done nothing but talk. Obama did a lot of talking too in 2008 and where did that get us? I have a feeling unless the Tea Party can lessen the desparate anxiety that many Americans are feeling in their ability to obtain gainful employment and a sense of hope for the future (in that order) then they will just bit a blip on the historical congressional record. I really don't see how they plan to offer direct relief to the suffering. If anything, it seems they will only add to it with all their talk of fiscal responsibility which translates to program cuts to the poor and tax cuts for the wealthy. So how do they figure to retain their seats? I see real problems in the distribution of wealth in Amerrica and unless someone comes up with a way to fix the problems that the banks and the politicians created it could get violent and bloody.

Michael S of MI 3:33PM September 25, 2010

"Is suggestive" in certain contexts can be used interchangeably with "assuming," as in "the word 'probably' assumes inductive reasoning." However, this is completely different than Comrade Bill's original usage, in which he accused me of making assumptions about him. The former uses the denotative meaning of "assumption" whereas Comrade Bill uses the connotative meaning. This is true, even if Comrade Bill had intended to use the denotative meaning, since the context in which he used it suggests the connotative. Thus, when Comrade Billy says something to the effect of "You should not make assumptions about my beliefs..." the connotation is that I should not make "unfair" assumptions about his beliefs. In fact, it would be impossible to make absolutely no assumptions about Comrade Bill's beliefs, since at the very least, I must assume that what Comrade Bill writes corresponds to his beliefs to some extent. And so no reasonable person would assume the denotative meaning.
And some may argue, "But that means you did make an assumption about Bill, albeit a fair one." Maybe, but that's using a denotative meaning again. I was making a distinction between Bill's connotative usage, and the process of inductive reasoning, which technically refers to the process by which I made the assumption.
Comrade Bill at one point makes an appeal to "sane" conversation, borrowing the rhetoric of liberal John Stewart. My question to John Stewart: is it "sane" to try to reason with this sort of intellectual dishonesty?

Jamon Crudo of AK 6:44AM September 25, 2010

Have a good one...

Bill Hedges of MO 5:50AM September 25, 2010

Well this is going absolutely nowhere. Shall we call it a night?

Jamon Crudo of AK 5:41AM September 25, 2010

"is suggestive" is assuming in my book.
I have no need for "power struggle". Call me self-accualized if you wish...

Bill Hedges of MO 5:38AM September 25, 2010

"Is this a logic match ?"
Clearly it's a power struggle, and you are arguing like a relativist. Which I would have assumed, you'd be against.
I firmly stand by my position that "probably" indicates the use of inductive reasoning. I base my argument not on formal logic, but psychology. It is my belief that when people say "probably" they are reasoning inductively, whether they realize it or not. In fact I have a pretty hard time interpreting the word "probably" in any other way.

Jamon Crudo of AK 5:25AM September 25, 2010

I have my right to vote to express my opinion and have it counted. As a citizen.
Also “"probably" is suggestive of inductive reasoning” is a assumption.
Is this a logic match ?

Bill Hedges of MO 5:10AM September 25, 2010

"I have my standards. Which applies to me. On ballet I vote my choice. "
Is it not painfully obvious to you, as it is to me, that the moment you cast your ballot, it ceases to apply only to you. Voting is not an individual act, it is collective action. I personally don't find it too effective, but that's besides the point. Particularly if you are voting on issues or for candidates based entirely or even partly on values (what they call social issues), those values cease to be merely individual preferences and become part of the public discourse. In fact, the only way you can vote on these issues and have them apply only to you, thereby respecting your private standards, is to vote on maintaining the right to privacy in general, for everyone.
"How can I know if induction or assumption by reading your comment ? Can not read your mind..."
I thought I made this clear on the last post. The use of the word "probably" is suggestive of inductive reasoning as it allows for the possibility that the conclusion is wrong. No need to read my mind, simply what I have written.

Jamon Crudo of AK 5:01AM September 25, 2010