Is Gay Marriage Good for America?

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U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker’s decision to invalidate California’s ban on same-sex marriage will force everyone to think about whether gay marriage is good for America.

Walker’s ruling, that the ban runs counter to the guarantees of equal protection and due process included in the U.S. Constitution, puts the issue on track for a hearing before the Supreme Court. By nullifying the votes of nearly 7 million Californians, Walker has forced the issue.

Advocates for gay marriage refuse to accept that there really can be a difference of viewpoints on the issue that is not motivated by hatred or bigotry. Yet no presidential nominee of either major political party has explicitly campaigned in support of it since the issue was moved onto the national agenda as the result of a ruling by the Massachusetts state Supreme Court. Neither major party platform advocates for gay marriage. In every state where the issue has been put before the voters, the idea that the definition of marriage should remain as something between a man and a woman has been affirmed, usually by a solid majority.

Dismissing the opposition to gay marriage as mere bigotry on the order of religious or racial prejudice, as Walker’s decision seemed in my judgment to do, is an insult to the American electorate.

Many of those who oppose gay marriage--and even some of its supporters--believe the effort to use the courts force it upon America (as Roe v. Wade forced legalized abortion on every state) is more about forcing people to change their views on homosexuality than it is about achieving measures of equality. There are those, for example, who do not object to the idea of gay marriage per se, and who support the idea of civil unions, who nonetheless object, and strongly, to the coercive tone of the currently unfolding legal and political debate.

The debate over gay marriage is, for some, a case in which government policy is being misused as a way to secure popular validation of a lifestyle to which some people, on moral grounds, strongly object.

"Gays ultimately need to stop looking to government for unconditional love and approval of who we are," says conservative writer Tammy Bruce.  Looking to government to force states to legitimize gay marriage, Bruce continues, "gives the government and other people’s opinions far too much power over the quality of our lives and effectively eliminates our own responsibility for our happiness."

Those who argue that the government should not be in the business of rendering what are, in effect, moral judgments about behaviors can do so only by ignoring the evidence. The government renders judgments all the time, and not just in the criminal code--by, for example, holding that an adult who engages in sexual relations with a child can be jailed as a result of their actions.

In another example, the government allows, even orders that people of differing incomes be taxed at different rates based on how much they earn or based on the type of income they receive. This is a moral judgment to say that people who make more should pay more, not just in dollar amounts but as a percentage of what they make.

It is highly likely that the Supreme Court will ultimately sustain Walker’s decision, upending at least 300 years of ordered liberty in which the traditional family unit has been the essential building block of the American civilization.

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LGBT rights,
Proposition 8,
marriage,
Supreme Court

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"The government has a vested interested in protecting children from psychological, emotional and physical abuse, which is why sex with a minor is illegal" also does not hold up.

Age of consent is different from state to state, country to country. What is acceptable in one state can land you on a sex offender registry in another. "Age of consent" is an arbitrarily defined marker that has changed throughout history.

Even if I concede your point that juveniles (13-17) lack the cognitive abilities to make good decisions and require government protection, that begs the question of why the government can treat them as adults in criminal cases, the very act of which assumes the cognitive decision making ability of an adult. We can, and do, hold children fully accountable as having adult decision making capabilities when it suits us.

The point is all definitions are being arbitrarily arrived at for the sole purpose of supporting an immediate goal, and as such, all definitions are mere moving targets based on prevailing interests.

The point is government, through legislation, creates definitions. Roff's argument stands.

Jamie of CA 9:38PM September 09, 2010

The common perception that this is about rights is misleading and many gay sites actually acknowledge that it is more about being perceived and accepted as normal and part of mainstream society.

The rights to benefits, insurance, transfer of property, were secured through Domestic Partnership laws in California. It is likely further DPL would have closed any remaining differences between heterosexual marriage and the DPL. So "rights" having been secured, the only thing left is in fact to demand that there be no distinction at all made between heterosexual and homosexual unions. There are even those within the gay community who find this to be counterproductive to the acceptance and establishment of an identity that is in fact distinguishable from heterosexual union. Also, statistically, it is more lesbian woman, as opposed to gay men, seeking marriage. A gender issue, not just a homosexual issue, may also be at work here. Woman seeking long-term commitment and exclusivity may be more biologically driven than it is for men.

Nonetheless, the present atmosphere is one where all opposition is dismissed as rooted in bigotry or religious belief. That is to simplify the issue to pointlessness, and it too is insulting and demeaning. The very inability to even entertain the validity of opposing arguments reeks of bigotry. The three dissenting opinions in the Massachusetts ruling, which preceded and was the basis for the San Francisco case.... are generated from literate, educated, individuals who present cogent reasons for their dissent. They are not bigoted, but well considered thoughts on the long-term ramifications of such a radical change has the potential to bring, negatively or positively. That they are dismissed unilaterally says something about the motives of the gay community members pushing for gay marriage.

It is also the very willingness of the larger majority to consider the considerations of homosexual needs that resulted in domestic partnership laws in the first place. That this itself is now viewed evidence of "further oppression" says to me that the gay agenda is, in fact, one of coercion, not acceptance, not rights, but a universal adoption of their own belief system. That is called imposition and coercion, not rights.

It is also politically effective to have individuals focus on this issue. With dimishing jobs, poverty increasing, wealth being distributed into fewer and fewer hands, the rich and powerful political factions are jumping for joy that our focus is here, and not on the fact that all of us, homosexual and heterosexual alike, are being stripped of the ability to be self-sufficient, let alone self-determining in who we can marry.

Karen of CA 5:02PM September 09, 2010

"The debate over gay marriage is, for some, a case in which government policy is being misused as a way to secure popular validation of a lifestyle to which some people, on moral grounds, strongly object."

Seems like it's being used exactly how it was intended - To secure rights to a lifestyle to which some people, on moral grounds, strongly object. Like interracial marriage, integration, women working, etc. And if they object to it, just like adultery, divorce, or any other moral objection, they can chose to not do it.

That's what the constitution was made for - to protect the rights of the minority against majority rule. That's exactly why we have checks and balances - so when something's not right, it can be fixed. It disgusts me that it was even allowed to go to vote.

"By nullifying the votes of nearly 7 million Californians, Walker has forced the issue."

And 7 million people can't be wrong, huh?

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[I was living in CA at the time of the election - it's harder to follow prop 8 from TX]

Michael of TX 12:26PM August 17, 2010

Peter Roff

Peter Roff

Peter Roff is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report. Formerly a senior political writer for United Press International, he’s now affiliated with several public policy organizations including Let Freedom Ring, and Frontiers of Freedom. His writing has appeared in National Review, Fox News’ opinion section, The Daily Caller, Politico and elsewhere. Follow him on Twitter @PeterRoff.

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