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The Perils of Pelosi's 'Deem and Pass' Healthcare Strategy

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groubbogs of NV 2:19PM November 08, 2012

The health-care bill is now passed into law-WITHOUT deem-and-pass (or a self-executing rule). Obamacare became law with a conventional vote in the House of Representatives. The did NOT have one vote on two separate items.

James of MD 5:42PM March 26, 2010

The 150 plus pages of the new house bill only underscores how bad this thing is. Just reading the changes should scare every American citizen. How many people did they pay off so far this time? I heard Maoboma saying companies would use profits for pay raises since they would cut costs for healthcare. My question is simply; Why? Besides, they would still be paying for healtcare, just dealing with a government entity instead of an insurance company.

Earl of GA 7:47PM March 18, 2010

What a Travesty. Our Senators and Representatives are OUR
VOICE in government. We voted them in to do our talking.
THIS NOVEMBER LET NOT ONE BE ELECTED TO CONTINUE THEIR DESTRUCTION OF OUR COUNTRY. FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
I AM A DISABLED VET. I HAVE FOUGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM. FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
THIS CONGRESS AND HOUSE ARE SHOWING US THAT THEY CHOOSE NOT TO LISTEN TO OUR MAJORITY VOICES.
THEY BY THEIR ACTIONS, ARE TELLING US THEY NO LONGER WANT TO
REPRESENT US.
THIS NOVEMBER WE WILL GIVE THEM THE RETIREMENT THEY WANT.
I HAVE A COPY OF THE BILL.
THESE PROPOSALS ARE NOT IN OUR BEST INTERESTS.
PAGE 30 SEC 123 OF THE H.C. BILL : THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE THAT DECIDES WHAT TREATMENTS/BENEFITS YOU GET.
PAGE 42 OF H.C. BILL: THE HEALTH CHOICES COMMISSIONER WILL
CHOOSE YOUR HC BENEFITS FOR YOU. YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.
PAGE 50 SEC 152 IN THE HC BILL: HC WILL BE PROVIDED TO ALL
NON-US CITIZENS, ILLEGAL OR OTHERWISE.
PAGE 59 HC BILL LINES 21-24:GOVT WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS FOR ELECTIVE FUNDS TRANSFER.
PAGE 85 LINE7 HC BILL: SPECIFICATIONS OF BENEFIT LEVELS FOR PLANS. THE GOVT WILL RATION YOUR HEALTH CARE.
PAGE 124 LINES 24-25HC:NO COMPANY CAN SUE GOVT ON PRICE FIXING.
NO JUDICIAL REVIEW AGAINST GOVT MONOPOLY.
PAGE 127 LINES 1-16HC BILL: DOCTORS/AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSN
THE GOVT WILL TELL YOU WHAT SALARY YOU CAN MAKE.
PAGE 170 LINES 1-3 HC BILL :ANY NON RESIDENT ALIEN IS EXEMPT
FROM INDIVIDUAL TAXES. GUESS WHO PAYS.
PAGE 195 HC BILL: OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE GOVT H.C. ADMIN. WILL HAVE ACCESS TO ALL AMERICANS' FINANCES AND PERSONAL RECORDS
PAGE 268 SEC 1141: THE FEDERAL GOVT REGULATES THE RENTAL AND PURCHASE OF POWER DRIVEN WHEELCHAIRS.
JUST A BRIEF BIT OF THE HELL WE WILL GET, IF THIS PASSES
GOD HELP US ALL

Peter Kaip of MI 6:47PM March 18, 2010

Any other shenanigans are a travesty for a bill so large and so important to the American people. This is just like "1984" with new rules being written daily to validate the corruption of the Democratic Party. The House Ethics Committee is an oxymoron. Pelosi is chief moron. Too bad she and Murtha could not trade places.

Fed Up of IN 2:15PM March 18, 2010

It is time to let the people decide. If not, it is time for the people to decide whether they wish to stay in this union, with its too big to fail, corrupt government that spends our children's money making them paupers and slaves. It is time for the people to decide whether we keep a government that makes a mockery of the constitution and the rule of law. It is time for the people to decide whether it is acceptable for congress to pass laws which no one wants, not even their own members. It is time for people to decide whether the ends justify the means and that might makes right. It is time decide if they should take back liberty and their economic, political, social and moral rights and ask their state legislatures to secede.

Jenkins of NC 1:05PM March 18, 2010

Health Care needs to be corrected, but the methods being presented are not for the American People, just control of the American people by the government. Government needs to look to more important issues, such as more job creation and military techniques to protect our country not tear down what our forefathers have already established. My father was a POW in World War II, and I hate to see what he has fought for a protected be subjected to such uncaring control of people, by passing a health care that NOBOBY WANTS! Check in out 75% do not want this. Why continue to destroy our Wonderful America.

Carolyn Brewer of KY 11:06AM March 18, 2010

Deem and Pass was used 100 times under Hastert, and 100 more times under Gingrich. It's only a problem if Pelosi uses it.
More Republican amnesia and doubletalk. Can't you guys be honest about anything?

Panskeptic of MT 7:52AM March 18, 2010

Mark R. Levin, president of Landmark Legal Foundation, today issued a warning to the leadership of the U.S. House of Representatives about the possible use of the so-called “deem and pass,” “self-executing,” or “Slaughter Rule” to enact H.R. 3590, the legislative version of President Obama’s healthcare proposal that has been previously approved by the Senate. If this tactic is employed, Landmark will immediately sue the President, Attorney General Eric Holder and other relevant cabinet members to prevent them from instituting this unconstitutional contrivance.
“Landmark has already prepared a lawsuit that will be filed in federal court the moment the House acts. Such a brazen violation of the core functions of Congress simply cannot be ignored. Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution is clear respecting the manner in which a bill becomes law. Members are required to vote on this bill, not claim they did when they didn’t. The Speaker of the House and her lieutenants are temporary custodians of congressional authority. They are not empowered to do permanent violence to our Constitution.”

Peter Roff of VA 3:56AM March 18, 2010

States are lining up to challenge Constitutionality of obama care.
"Idaho took the lead in a growing, nationwide fight against health care overhaul Wednesday when its governor became the first to sign a measure requiring the state attorney general to sue the federal government if residents are forced to buy health insurance."
"Similar legislation is pending in 37 other states."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g0LSHNfmnWDnZ_JylqiFxeT5GKEQD9EGLNDO0

Bill Hedges of MO 1:12AM March 18, 2010