Pelosi was Against ‘Deem and Pass’ Before She Was For It

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Signaling her growing desperation, Nancy Pelosi said Monday that a Rules Committee scheme to "deem" the healthcare bill as having passed the House without being voted on had won her support. "I like it," the speaker of the House told a roundtable of bloggers Monday, "because people don't have to vote on the Senate bill." For Pelosi, winning is no longer the most important thing. It has become the only thing--and apparently by any means necessary. 

The White House and congressional Democratic leaders like Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid talk like the changes they are proposing are wildly popular, that they have a mandate to implement them. Their behavior, by contrast, tells a different story. 

The bill currently stuck in the House would, if enacted into law, bring about the most sweeping changes in the U.S. healthcare system since the creation of Medicare in 1965. It would require Americans to purchase health insurance, would fundamentally alter the medical marketplace, and place new government controls on insurers and healthcare providers that, many experts agree, would eventually lead to rationing as a method of controlling costs. 

It is not an understatement to say that the more the American electorate learns about the bill the less they like it. Nevertheless, Reid and Pelosi have adopted the "my way or the highway" approach throughout the process of drafting and passing the bill, even going so far as to "high hat" the voters. Thinking they had enough Democrats in Congress to pass whatever they wanted without input from the GOP, and that they were backed by enough union muscle to get what they wanted, they eschewed compromise except at the extreme fringes, thinking that legislative success in this effort would cement their majority for a generation. 

They were wrong; so much so that, win or lose, pass or fail, the Democrat majorities in the House and Senate are now, by most all accounts, imperiled, both because of what the legislation would do and because of the way it has been handled. 

Seemingly blocked from bringing anything back up in the Senate, Pelosi has embraced a strategy proposed by Louise Slaughter, chairman of the House Rules Committee, that would allow her--and President Obama--to pretend the bill that passed the Senate last Christmas had now also passed the House. Through the use of a parliamentary maneuver known as "deeming," the House would accept a vote to pass a related piece of legislation as also having been a vote to pass the healthcare bill--which in theory gives members the opportunity to tell their constituents they didn't vote for the healthcare bill. 

This is the kind of faulty logic that leads to a fool's errand. 

In the first place, if the healthcare bill was as popular as the Democrats like to pretend it is, there would be no need for legislative subterfuge. Second, there will be plenty of people who will be ready to identify for the voters just which Democrats it was who voted to pass a bad and unpopular healthcare bill while voting for something else. And quite possibly these people will be willing to spend a lot of money on political ads next September and October to do so. It would then be left to those same Democrats to explain why that was not the case--even though the American electorate is not stupid; certainly not as stupid as Pelosi seems to think. They will see right through the parliamentary chicanery to the truth, with Pelosi herself having helped to load the gun. 

All day Tuesday, the Republicans on Capitol Hill were busy trying to draw attention to a lawsuit filed several years ago by Public Citizen, a liberal group, that challenged the same kind of "deem and pass" scheme that Pelosi, Slaughter, and others are trying to use to get the healthcare bill to the president's desk. 

Challenging the constitutionality of The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, the group argued in its brief that: 

Some constitutional provisions are open to interpretation. One constitutional requirement that is not ambiguous, however, is the requirement that every bill pass both houses of Congress before it can be presented to the President and become law. The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 ("DRA") was presented to the President in violation of that requirement: The Senate passed one version of a bill, the House another, and then the Senate's version was presented to the President, who signed it. Under the Constitution, that bill has not become a law.

Onboard Public Citizen's brief as friends of the court were Pelosi, Slaughter, the now-disgraced former chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee Charlie Rangel, and other senior Democrats who are now desperate to get the healthcare bill out the door. No matter. A foolish consistency, as Emerson once wrote, is the hobgoblin of little minds--and it would be foolish for Pelosi and her team to remain consistent at this point in time because it would prevent them from winning. 

 

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A perfect pairing - Republicans were sooooooo FOR Deem & Pass before they were against it. How drole!

Apparently the Senate Parliamentarian has given Ms. Pelosi the green light:

Thursday March 4, 2010

Reconciliation can be used to find savings

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It has been said that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. In the Daily Mail's March 2 editorial regarding health care reform legislation, "Using reconciliation would hurt Democrats: Choking off debate is no way to muscle through health legislation," the newspaper's misunderstanding of congressional procedures misinforms readers who, in rapidly increasing numbers, find themselves unable to obtain or afford medical insurance.

The editorial correctly quoted me as saying in the spring of 2009 that using reconciliation to enact a huge health care package would "violate the intent and spirit of the budget process . . .".

I believed then, as now, that the Senate should debate the health reform bill under regular rules, which it did. The result of that debate was the passing of a comprehensive health care reform bill in the Senate by a 60-vote supermajority.

I continue to support the budget reconciliation process for deficit reduction. The entire Senate- or House- passed health care bill could not and would not pass muster under the current reconciliation rules, which were established under my watch.

Yet a bill structured to reduce deficits by, for example, finding savings in Medicare or lowering health care costs, may be consistent with the Budget Act, and appropriately considered under reconciliation.

With all due respect, the Daily Mail's hyperbole about "imposing government control," acts of "disrespect to the American people" and "corruption" of Senate procedures resembles more the barkings from the nether regions of Glennbeckistan than the "sober and second thought" of one of West Virginia's oldest and most respected daily newspapers.

My commitment to protecting the best interests of all West Virginians and the American people remains as firm and consistent as my devotion to observing the necessary and essential Senate rules and procedures intended to guarantee debate and the airing of diverse views.

Robert C. Byrd

Washington, D.C.

Byrd is the senior U.S senator from West Virginia

Arabella of NY 11:56PM March 17, 2010

You are so right. However, you can't keep Congress from stealing health care money. They changed S/S law and stole that money.

obama care eventually will be run by government. There are tapes of him saying that going back in time. Look at the 50-60 $trillion debt of our present social programs.

Before loop-hole was closed, there were a few private SS. In the black and pay more. Other benefits I think you would like. We need a better private system as seen in GOP plan.

Here are two links:

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba514/

http://gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/a_tale_of_two_approaches.pdf

Bill Hedges of MO 3:59PM March 17, 2010

Remember when Congress first had to create this "Obamacare"? They were in a panic, because it was so bad they did not want it.. Then once their buddy Teddy told them they were all exempt, there was the unConstitutional push to ram this and more taxes, job destruction, rationed care,and controls onto the American people. Social Security failed because when it was created the average lifespan was 62 years.. People would NEVER collect after paying in, these days people live to almost 80, which is 15 years or more.. They robbed the SS accounts, this bill would be the same since many of the new taxes in the Obama-crap are taxes which pay directly into the general Treasury. If it's a fee/fine (tax) related to healthcare, then it should go into a specific account FOR healthcare.. Not be pissed away by the "tax and spend" crooks on the hill.. The fraud is that this won't add to government cost. BUT it collects immediately once signed but does not start paying out until after 4 years, (a fund build up) But then after the first 10 years, what goes in will go back out. As with the current ponzi schemes of SS and such.. It'll only add to higher costs and increased rationing. Look at Mass for their failing "universal HC", it's over budget and instead of cutting useless pencil pushers, they reduce services and treatment options.

America says NO to Obamacare or any other kind of government takeover of healthcare!

Alex Darkke of OH 3:34PM March 17, 2010

Peter Roff

Peter Roff

Peter Roff is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report. Formerly a senior political writer for United Press International, he’s now affiliated with several public policy organizations including Let Freedom Ring, and Frontiers of Freedom. His writing has appeared in National Review, Fox News’ opinion section, The Daily Caller, Politico and elsewhere. Follow him on Twitter @PeterRoff.

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