GOP Holding Unusually Firm on Health Reform Could Flip House

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Hey, Ash of KS! Has the tall wheat in KS gotten in the way of your thinking?

Ray of Yonkers of NY 4:36PM February 25, 2010

McCain asked President about special deal in Florida. Why 49 States don't get it.

Uhhhhhhhhh.

Bill Hedges of MO 3:09PM February 25, 2010

Although it's hard to imagine the cartoonish nonsense peddled by the lunatic fringe that represents the Republican party holding out another eight and a half months. Newt Gingrich today was out complaining about Obama's "Hugo Chavez-like" attempt at governing with a majority.

But, again, I want to know where Republicans think they're going to pick up ten seats in the Senate and forty in the House, particularly when they have no agenda, no message other than "no," and a rapidly diminishing base. Do they go after the Tea Partiers or the sane conservatives that still give them a chance at some moderate votes? Or skip the whole thing and, like the candidate Secretary of State in Kansas, just push to make sure that Democratic constituencies can't vote?

Ash McGonigal of KS 1:50PM February 25, 2010

Ron W. Smith of UT: I comprehend your meaning but am not sure you comprehend mine. Read my post more closely, please, and let me know whether it endorses "band-aid measures" or whether I fully endorsed what currently comprises the Republican party's plan for health insurance reform. Indeed, let me know whether I endorsed any specific policy at all.

Todd of PA 9:47AM February 25, 2010

Obama's health care reform bill does not include a public option!

60 House Democrats promised that they would not sign any final bill that does not include a public option. If they go back on their word, toss them out in November 2010 or primary them before then if at all possible.

Progressive Change and Fire Dog Lake have both documented how Obama flip-flopped on his promise to include a public option in the HCR bill that he signs.

At YouTube ("Obama Promised"):

Obama: "Any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest..."

The sell out met with Big Insurance and Big Pharma behind closed doors, though. His HCR bill will line the pockets of Big Insurance & Big Pharma. He, Landrieu, Lieberman, Lincoln, Nelson and others are sell-outs.

Mike of AR 12:45AM February 25, 2010

If the WH and the Whole Obama-Pelosi-Reid Trilogy try to CRAM the standing Bills down America's throat...

November 2010 WILL be a bloodbath.

The Republicans lost in 2006 and 2008 because they had "compromised" themselves and become Democrats.

At this point, I'm NO FAN of either "party" BUT the Republicans at least have shown a willingness to at least "listen" to the American Public.

THE "REAL" Republican Party STOOD for Individual Civil Rights, Responsible Spending, Strong Defense, De-Centralized Government and State's Rights!

What happened in OUR "Politically Correct", "Don't offend anybody", "Don't stick your hands or feet under the RUNNING lawnmower" World?????

IF you're in a WAR...GO kick butt and FINISH IT!

(we'll just rebuild them later anyway)

If you don't have the money...DON'T spend it

IF it's not Government's Business...DON'T Legislate IT!

COMMON SENSE PEOPLE...

Is it THAT HARD to understand???

Chris Petty of GA 12:21AM February 25, 2010

Mr. Hoff's analysis is extremely biased.

Republicans have been operating "in bad faith" on health care reform since the beginning.

They have absolutely no interest in a positive outcome for any Obama legislation, especially health care reform and they don't hide this fact. "Defeating Obama's health care agenda is going to be a huge gain for those of us who want to turn this thing over in the 2010 election," Senator Jim Inhofe (R-Ok). "There's one thing we gotta stop is health care. I'm serious, now. If they get that, then that's the tipping point," Rush Limbaugh.

Obstructionist Republican obstructionist posturing is basically campaign politics, with an eye to the mid-terms and 2010, a conscious strategy to derail the Obama administration, hence why they vote "NO" in blocks, even on ideas and bills that they have contributed to or originated. (Mr. Hoff - you should review the President's website www.healthreform.gov...I believe it shows you ALL the many Republican contributions to his bill, and there's a lot, my friend).

Proof of Republican partisan obstructionism & inability to deal "in good faith", even if they lie on TV about their desire to be bi-partisan and accusations that it's the Democrats who are shutting them out...yesterday, when Senator Brown voted "YES" on the Democrats' jobs bill, he was publicly skewered for doing so. His action was called "outrageous".

What, I ask, is the point of having a Congress, if the representatives of American citizenry are acting out of self-interested political motivation, and not on behalf of the interests of the American people.

In cases like this, when the "bad faith" of the Minority Party has been exposed, reconciliation is not only justified, it is necessary to avoid gridlock & paralysis. After all, government is supposed to serve America, not itself.

Arabella of NY 7:12PM February 24, 2010

We need to reform the health problem. No need for this big expansion of government to do so. No need for waste nor pork.

obama has spoke of waste and fraud in medicare. That is promise we have heard from maybe every President. I wish obama would get that done as well as in S/S. He says behind closed doors he got price concession from drug companies, get them going now.

Tort reform could so easily be done if not second biggest source of money for Democrats. Show obama the change in Washington you promised and demand real tort reform. It does more than save on monetary awards and needless law suits. There is malpractice cost reduction. Affects needless test, etc. Applies to Doctors, nurses, hospitals, drug companies, etc. Is a way to lower cost of heath care.

Party of no becomes party of yes when health bill is proudly worked out on CSPAM and polls skyrocket up. Votes not bought, no need. That's democracy in action.

obama's words are hopeful of late. None of that rush, rush, rush cover up..

Bill Hedges of MO 7:00PM February 24, 2010

Both Todd of PA and Peter Roff see band-aid measures as having potential in our ongoing soap opera called "Health Care Reform." Those measures--tort reform, insurance exchanges, interstate purchase of insurance, electronic records, fee for success not service, state initiatives, and others--comprise a pathetic list the collection of which won't come close to lowering health care costs enough. (Americans, remember, pay twice as much PER person for health care coverage than anyone anywhere else in the industrialized world, and they do so without, by any measure, better results!) REAL health care reform, the kind that could bring costs in line with those in other places, was torpedoed from the start by private insurers and Big Pharma, who saw their gravy boat as much as sunk if they didn't launch torpedoes first--hundreds of millions of dollars spent on lobbying, campaign contributions, and an advertising blitz to prevent Single Payer and its feebler sequel plan, Public Option, from having any chance of success.

There went all the opportunity for BIG savings in this country.

Claims of "socialized medicine," made by those who obviously have not experienced it first hand, scared the bejeebers out of those who are easily fooled into thinking what health care industry corporate interests and their political allies want them to think.

Obama's "summit" to bring together the parties over the band-aid measures is thus doomed to far less than desirable results.

Cost containment in health care is a lost dream, the nibbling around the edges now possible but a drop in the bucket. Portability of insurance coverage, so necessary to those who change or lose jobs, is no longer on the table. And there is nothing at all to stop private insurers (like Wellpoint's Anthem Blue Cross) from hiking rates at the drop of a hat and, thus,from running off with our money again and again. After all, REAL competition among insurers and providers of medical goods and services has been left on the cutting room floor.

Single Payer and, to lesser degree, Public Option were the real answer to health care reform in this country. No use crying over spilt milk, though. To the victors, private insurers and Big Pharma, go the spoils: our money for ever-increasing insurance premiums. To the loser, we the people, come the bills.

Comprehend, Todd of PA and Peter Roff?

Ron W. Smith of UT 6:06PM February 24, 2010

I agree with Mr. Roff for the most part. "Health reform" (whatever that means), as envisioned by congressional democrats seeks to expand coverage and reduce costs, two outcomes that will be spectacularly difficult to affect simultaneously. I'd argue that congress and the white house ought to take up the latter first; it will make the former much easier and lessen the need for and cost of government intervention.

If the Republicans can put forward--in a rational, well-articulated manner--an initiative that truly will contain the cost of healthcare, they will gain the upper hand in this debate. However, their ability to capitalize on such a victory will depend on the "rational, well-articulated" part (leaving out talk of "death panels" and other such tripe). I put the odds of this happening at about 50/50; it will depend upon who, if anyone, controls the party message.

Bottom line: I'd like to see my party return to power on the back of a strong proposal that makes sound fiscal sense. If the party can leave aside the histrionics and social overtones that it has used to garner support among some groups, it may be able to gain the faith of the broad swath of Americans who are fiscally conservative and socially moderate (or altogether socially indifferent).

Given this country's current and emerging demographics, this approach is the future.

Todd of PA 12:33PM February 24, 2010

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Peter Roff is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report. Formerly a senior political writer for United Press International, he’s now affiliated with several public policy organizations including Let Freedom Ring, and Frontiers of Freedom. His writing has appeared in National Review, Fox News’ opinion section, The Daily Caller, Politico and elsewhere. Follow him on Twitter @PeterRoff.

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