Don't Make the Kagan Supreme Court Fight About the Mommy Wars

May 17, 2010 RSS Feed Print

By Mary Kate Cary, Thomas Jefferson Street blog

Does the Supreme Court need more moms? Ann Gerhart asked the question in yesterday’s Washington Post, and the live Q&A that followed today online opened up a whole can of worms with readers. 

In the Sunday opinion piece, among other things, Gerhart wrote that there is a lack of data examining the decisions of female judges who are mothers compared to those who are not mothers, to determine whether they come at legal questions differently. That’s a good thing, she says, because “examining mothers vs. non-mothers would open a whole new front in the mommy wars; the Ph.D.s who conduct research on gender difference are often women themselves, with little appetite to pick that fight.” She’s got that right--as evidenced by the fired-up reader comments in the online discussion today, which turned into a mommy war, big-time.

I’d rather not see this turn into a woman vs. woman thing. Why do we need to go there? Let’s just keep it to the fact that we need more women at the table. (One fight at a time, please, as we say in my house.) 

Gerhart quotes Dina Refki, director of SUNY-Albany's Center for Women in Government and Civil Society, who says that in any organization, having women account for 33 percent of the group is the “threshold for change.” I’ve heard a similar number when it comes to corporate boards--that the ones with at least three women on them begin to see a change, as women reach a kind of critical mass in the organization. Elena Kagan’s nomination to the Supreme Court, whether she is a mom or not, gets women over the “change threshold” to a critical mass on the highest court. That’s what women should be focusing on.

Before Justice Souter retired last year, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg spoke with Joan Biskupic in USA Today, and called for the next justice to be a woman. Justice Ginsberg is a mom and notice she focused her remarks on needing a woman, and didn’t narrow it to a mother: "You know the line that Sandra and I keep repeating … that 'at the end of the day, a wise old man and a wise old woman reach the same judgment'? But there are perceptions that we have because we are women. It's a subtle influence. We can be sensitive to things that are said in draft opinions that (male justices) are not aware can be offensive."

"Yes, women bring a different life experience to the table," Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg told Emily Bazelon in the New York Times Magazine shortly before the Sotomayor hearings. "All of our differences make the conference better. That I'm a woman, that's part of it, that I'm Jewish, that's part of it, that I grew up in Brooklyn, N.Y., and I went to summer camp in the Adirondacks, all these things are part of me." In an ideal world, sure, let’s discuss whether some women might bring a different experience than other women to the court. But we’re far from an ideal world, and for now, just having more qualified women on the Supreme Court is good enough for me. Let’s leave the mommy wars out of it.

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You did a good job of defining what the right regards as "judicial activism", and if you had outright accused her of being an activist, then we would be having a different conversation. But, you accused her of not understanding the constitutional nature of the law. That's a completely different issue.

It's one thing to disagree with a theory of constitutional interpretation. And, to argue that she subscribes to the theory you personally disagree with. But, you essentially charged that she doesn't have the experience to know how things work; and you obviously did so simply because you suspect that she subscribes to a theory that is not your preferred theory.

Framing your opinion as fact is intellectually dishonest.

M of CA 8:03PM May 19, 2010

M of CA.

US law consists of several levels of codified AND uncodified law. But, the Constitution is the basis and foundation for all U.S. law.

What I mean regarding "Constitutional nature of the law" is that Kagan has the propensity to become an activist judge who will likely not keep within Constitutioanl bounds.

Judicial activism entails overturning laws as unconstitutional, overturning judicial precedent, and ruling against a preferred interpretation of the constitution. The philosophy of such juducial decision-making is to allow personal views about public policy to influence their decision.

Judicial activism argues one should understand constitutional meanings in line with current social norms and beliefs. In a connection to pragmatism, judicial activism sees changing social psychology as essential to consider because as peoples' mind constantly reinterpret and form reality, our 'truths' change.

Judicial activism, essentially views the constitution as a worn, relic of bygone era. What matters more, are the prevailing political winds. Which, is the basis for my comment that Kagan will fail when it comes to the constitutional nature of law.

But then again, how can we possible know what we get with Kagan? We can't possible know how she would judge considering she's never been a judge. She's never worn the robes of justice. Every current member of SCOTUS has, at least, pedigreed background as a circut court judge and appeals court judge. Even then, that's not sufficient.

What has Kagan done? She's edited the Harvard Law review, lobbied to keep military recuiters off campus, lobbied and culled political favor. Had a brief stint as clerk for the Supreme court. Graded papers and keeps egos in check as dean at Harvard?

Remember, Obama was a Harvard guy and he nominated Eric Holder to Attorney General. He nominated a flop who mirandizes terrorists, and can't read 10 pages of the state immigration law passed by Arizona. Proof that intelligence is overrated.

david of ID 6:01PM May 18, 2010

I can't understand how a lack of courtroom experience and a career in academia demonstrates that "she will be capricious and subjective and use the law as a means to justify her liberal ends." Academia embraces both points of view. If you want to ace a law school exam, you can't simply argue for one side. You have to be able to argue both sides. Very few law school courses encourage you to draw a conclusion and cease further examination.

And, what's your authority that "she lacks insight into the constitutional nature of the law"? That's a complete nonsense sentence. Are you implying that she doesn't understand that all American law must comport with the Constitution? What exactly then does "constitutional nature of the law" mean?

Finally, the vast majority of trial lawyers and judges operate in codified law, which often has very little to do with Constitutional law. Furthermore, most of their opinions are researched and drafted by clerks. You are misguided to assume then that they are in a better position to "know the law."

I'm not saying Kagan is above criticism. But, let's be honest and fair in our criticism, please. No matter how fancy you dress it up, you came the conclusion that she is a progressive liberal and you don't want one on the bench. Everything that came before that was empty rhetoric.

M of CA 4:16PM May 18, 2010

Mary Kate Cary

Mary Kate Cary

Mary Kate Cary is a former White House speechwriter for President George H.W. Bush. She currently writes speeches for political and business leaders.

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