Arizona Immigration Law May Lead to Consensus

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Secure the border and enforce the laws PERIOD, not "first."
This is the consensus of Americans, as evidenced by the recent Rasmussen poll that shows nearly 70% of voters support border enforcement and not legalization (amnesty).
When we consistently enforce our existing immigration laws, this will cause the majority of illegal aliens to return home over time, without the need for mass deportations or "earned lagalization" amnesty.
"Path to citizenship" or expanded "guest worker" programs etc. are code phrases for mass amnesty and as We the People made clear in June of 2007, we will NOT accept this.

Joe of PA 9:40PM May 12, 2010

Give me a method to apply for citizenship legally and I will do so... that is what the Democrats are proposing in immigration reform, a path to app;lying legally cuz right now none exists! At the moment you can come in legally as a visitor or student or temporary worker, but many including post grad students like myself (a European National) who work in professional roles and contribute in very public ways like you would never imagine are forced to either uproot ourselves after years planting roots, paying taxes and contributing to society, or remain as illegal aliens, able to work, but unable to leave for home even for a visit for fear that once one leaves, one is barred even from visiting in future because of the automatic ban on visas that ensues overstaying one's visa. These are real issues that all you extremists out there would prefer to ignore... Also there is the question of federal busing of Mexican day laborers into American farms along the border that require the work and would certainly be abandoned without the cheap labor, but of course such truths are not very convenient are they? The idea of doing nothing suits the right just fine cuz they and their corporate constituents benefit from the near free labor provided by illegals. America was built on the free labor of people of color and America will never give up free labor!

J. Smith of NJ 6:27PM May 06, 2010

the problem with this bill is that it segregates mexican americans but it also inforces that i a legal citizen should carry my documentation around even to cross the street for fear of getting a $160 ticket. and even if i have my papers i still am againt that stupid Arizona law.
just because you and your family have their papers does not mean you should be an arrogant bastard. illegal or not their human beings and they deserve a chance to a better life and without misjudgement.
in the declaration of independence it states that everyone should have "life,Liberty and the Persuit of happiness" thats all these people are asking for.
and i doubt americans would wanna get out and mowe their own lawns. apparently thats not whats happening since hispanics and latinos are one of the hardest working people in the u.s. working in the fields while its 100+ degrees out there.
I will stand by them and fight alongside them even if i have papers. i abhor people that are as ignorant as you pablo knowing exactly where your family and you are from. your forgetting your roots

KChavez of WA 5:26PM May 06, 2010

What part of "Illegal" don't you understand?
Nowhere in the new AZ law is there any mention of investigating complaints based on race, color, or national origin. As a matter of fact, the only mention of "race" in this entire bill, is the statement found below. READ THE LAW!!!! ....then pack your suitcase and get out, before we will force you out. I can cut my own lawn, cook my own food, clean my own house, wash my own car, and water my own trees. If I want to hire someone to help me, I will hire a LEGAL worker.
p7, line 28-30
p11, line 24-26
"The attorney general or county attorney shall NOT investigate complaints that are based solely on race, color or national origin".

Pablo of AZ 4:42AM May 06, 2010

The only mention of "race" in this entire bill, is the statement found below.
p7, line 28-30
p11, line 24-26
"The attorney general or county attorney shall not investigate complaints that are based solely on race, color or national origin".
So, ummmmm, why am I hearing many opposers of the law state that this is a race issue? Did you read the law? Sounds to me like the opposers haven't read the law, because the law actually protects people from the fear of being investigated soley on race.
The party's over illegals. Apply legally, just like my family did, and I will welcome you with open arms.

Pablo of AZ 2:29AM May 06, 2010

The only mention of "race" in this entire bill, is the statement found below.
p7, line 28-30
p11, line 24-26
"The attorney general or county attorney shall not investigate complaints that are based solely on race, color or national origin".
So, ummmmm, why am I hearing many opposers of the law state that this is a race issue? Did you read the law? Sounds to me like the opposers haven't read the law, because the law actually protects people from the fear of being investigated soley on race.
The party's over illegals. Apply legally, just like my family did, and I will welcome you with open arms.

Pablo of AZ 2:29AM May 06, 2010

The border cannot be secured. That's stupid. There's too much of it, only militarized borders prevent entry, and there's the coastline. We don't have zillions of Brazilian and Chinese illegals because the coast is secure. Even if you could secure the Mexican border, coyotes are professional smugglers who could ferry illegals up the coast.
Only way to get shed of illegals is to end the bait the government use to bring them in. Go after employers, not illegal aliens, which is as ridiculous as trying to secure the border there are so many of them. End jackpot baby citizenship. End benefits and promises.

Luther of LA 2:10AM May 06, 2010

There is a beanie in town whom we call Speedy Gonzales. He spray paints a house for only 150 bucks including the paint. Every house in the area was done by him including the home of a civil judge. According to some unemployed rednecks, the home owners should be arrested, imprisoned and Speedy deported. If that happened the cost of spray painting a house would be 800 bucks, the paint not included. Budget minded homeowners love speedy more than the unemployed rednecks, and hope he will bring in his 5 brothers.

melvin polatnick of NY 4:49PM May 05, 2010

If not for the history of those that are stoked to get illegals or any group that is not like them, this bill would not raise the ire of so many.
It's the fact that those whom are initiating this bill and their history are full of abuses of power, is the reason for the opposition. Fortunately, we are not living in the 60's, where the mentality of "white is right" no longer prevails.
We already have citizens that have killed abortion doctors, have plotted to kill poiceman at a cop's funeral, and are consistently showing their disdain with the U.S. and the results of the melting pot we live in.
The history of those that are stoked, is that of abuse of power, and total disrespect for the constitution and the rights which said document allows its citizens.
So what we have is a small group of citizens that are so crazed with power and control, that even before the law is passed or allowed to go into effect, everyone outside that circle already knows that these individuals that would enforce the law are going to abuse it, then go to court looking clean-cut and lie on the stand. To that group that is patriotic. They want to do wrong and be viewed as right, hypocrisy at it's best!
So if not for your history of abuses, under the guise of patriotism and respect for the constitution, while at the same time promoting "white is right," we would be able to come together and as "one nation under God" we could try to find some comprehensive way to address the issue, even if it takes the billions of dollars that some want to spend to build "the wall."

Mitchell of NC 11:52AM May 05, 2010

they should create a program for addressing the lost money to illegal immigrants...
kinda like sally struthers, but the ad could go:
do you care about illegal immigrants?
would you be willing to sponsor an illegal immigrant?
just check the box on you tax return, by which you can be charged 10k to your income taxes.
seriously, if the people who favor illegal immigrants were even trying to make a dent in the cost that the 20+ million represent, they'd have an ounce of crediblity.

mtl of TN 3:56AM May 05, 2010