Forget the Senate, House Hurdles Threaten to Sink Health Reform

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Linda Killian, Thomas Jefferson Street blog

There's been endless talk about counting votes and using reconciliation to pass healthcare in the Senate. But with the realization that the Democrats probably don't have a majority of votes for the plan in either chamber of Congress right now, attention is shifting to the House.

House members feel a little bit like Charlie Brown with the football expecting the Senate/Lucy to pull it away just as they are ready to kick it. That's why there is some complicated back room choreography going on about who goes first.

But according to Jason Altmire, a moderate Democrat from Pennsylvania's 4th District, the order doesn't matter. What matters is what's in the bill.

Altmire voted against the House plan in November, and he says he hasn't seen or heard anything since to convince him to change his mind.

"I don't think that anything has changed. We're hearing the same talking points we've been hearing for a year. I don't think the debate has moved one way or the other," Altmire says.

In order to pass health reform, House leaders not only have to persuade someone like Altmire who voted no to switch his vote, but also hold on to all of the yes votes they had the first time.

A number of his colleagues who supported the House version of health reform "deeply regret their vote" because of what they are hearing from their constituents back home, Altmire says. "I know some who would love the opportunity to make up for it" by changing their vote the second time around.

"At least a handful of them would relish the opportunity to have a do-over," predicts Altmire.

On top of that, add the abortion funding issue which is forcing Democrats to thread the needle in an attempt to keep everyone happy on both sides of that debate and could cost them some votes.

"In that dynamic where you are almost certainly going to lose some yeses, I don't see where you are going to make up the difference," says Altmire. He said he doesn't know anyone who voted no in November who would change their vote unless the legislation was substantially changed.

What it would take to win his vote is addressing spiraling healthcare costs, which he says the Democrats seem to have lost sight of.

"I personally need to see more cost containment and delivery system reform. Right now they are just shifting money around," Altmire says. "The debate started there--with reducing the cost for people who have insurance now--but it evolved into a social engineering initiative to cover everybody and raise taxes to do it."

Not exactly the sound bite Democrats would want to see featured in a commercial about their health plan.

But Altmire has some pretty impressive company who share his feeling about the plan. Business guru Warren Buffett on CNBC Monday expressed much the same view, saying the current bill does not focus on controlling costs, which is the central problem that must be addressed to reform the system.

"What we have now is untenable over time," said Buffett, who was an Obama supporter. "That kind of a cost compared to the rest of the world is really like a tapeworm eating, you know, at our economic body."

"We have a health system that, in terms of costs, is really out of control," he said, adding that the rise in healthcare costs is seriously affecting the ability of the U.S. to be competitive.

Since the Senate bill "really doesn't attack the cost situation that much", Buffett said he would favor scrapping it.

Perhaps not surprisingly, Altmire says his leaders have not reached out to him seeking his support.

"I don't think they have decided what strategy they are going to pursue in this go around," he says.

An aide to another moderate House Democrat who voted yes the first time said her boss is getting so tired of the whole healthcare debate he would vote yes again just to make the whole thing go away so Congress can focus on jobs.

Maybe that's the argument Democratic leaders should use when they're lobbying for votes. 

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Our nation is bankrupt from spending what we do not have. Our government and the citizens have trod the same path.

Poor, debtor nations are not known for their expansive social programs and high quality health care.

If we are going to add more costs to our staggering economy I suggest we find a way to pay for it first. Notwithstanding the glib dismissals of these concerns by our huckstering president.

R.L. Schaefer of CA 1:28PM March 02, 2010

Says”

“Both Houses Passed a BIll with a super-majority. A bill will passs via reconciliation. It should. “

Maybe. Maybe not.

“ Conrad: Reconciliation won’t work for ObamaCare”

“No wonder the Times was so pessimistic about reconciliation. Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND), who runs the committee that would have to run a reconciliation push, says that the budgetary process can’t be used for ObamaCare. It would only address the actual budgetary issues, which leaves a lot off the table. The Budget Committee chair told CBS’ Face the Nation audience that reconciliation wasn’t designed for this purpose, nor is it appropriate for such sweeping legislation:”

“Hoyer deflected questions about whether there were enough votes in the House to pass the Democrats’ plans as outlined thus far.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/28/conrad-reconciliation-wont-work-for-obamacare/

Deetoo says:

“Costs must be controlled, and private insurers obviously do not have the discipline to do this without government involvement, or best interests of their customers.”

“ The Effect of State Regulations on Health Insurance Premiums: A Revised Analysis”

by Michael J. New, Ph.D.

“The results show that premiums tend to be higher in states that regu­late more heavily. On average, states with health plan liability laws, direct-access-to-specialists laws, and provider due process mandates have higher health insurance premiums than states without these regula­tions. Furthermore, states with more than 26 mandated benefits have higher premiums than states with 26 or fewer benefits. All of these find­ings achieve conventional standards of statistical significance.”

“Overall, these results provide solid evidence that the state-level regulations of health insurance are correlated with higher premiums.”

http://www.heritage.org/research/healthcare/cda06-04.cfm

Health care reform by Democrats is a weird bird. When has such a necessary service, when passed, is delayed 3 years to take effect ? But monies collected if passed ?

Republican plan could save money immediately & be implemented once passed.

Of course Republican plan does not replenish the government coffers from citizens making less than $200,000 in income.

Regulations and requirements cause some premium cost raise. Republican ideas such as free competition, tort reform, etc. lowers.

The here to for unheard of cost lowering when adding millions to roll is a government unprecedented fiasco waiting to happen.

One in good conscious must surmise obamacare will succumb to same destiny as medicare and Medicaid. Deep in trillions of dollars in debt. Using near imaginary cost saving promotions. Like Oregon State plan, MA State plan may go to death pills rather than expensive cancer pills. And other such cost saving measures. To lower their deep loses. As other Countries have limited care, so will obamacare...

Bill Hedges of MO 12:24PM March 02, 2010

Time for them all to go

Republican vs Democrat - does it really matter?

It's time to stop the finger pointing and vote for "REAL" change.

If anyone votes for "ANY" incumbent you are just asking for more of the same. “We the people” need to make a "No Incumbent" stance for the next 6 years and cycle everyone of them out of office.

Just look at the last year, if the health care takeover was such a great bill the Democrats had all the votes they needed. They didn’t need a single Republican vote and they couldn't pull it off. Add to the fact that if this health care bill is so good for the people, then why aren't every elected official required to be on the same plan?

Then go back a few years to when the Republicans held the house and senate, they spent money like a bunch of drunk sailors. And guess what a lot of the same Republicans are still there.

If we do not hold OUR representatives accountable then this is our fault, no one else’s.

VOTE NO TO IMCUMBENTS

IN 2010, 2012, & 2014

Larry of CA 10:16AM March 02, 2010

Linda Killian

Linda Killian

Linda Killian is a Washington journalist and a senior scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. She is currently working on a book called Swing about Independent/Centrist voters for St. Martin’s Press. Her previous book was The Freshmen: What Happened to the Republican Revolution?

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