Pelosi Jeopardized Vulnerable Democrats With Healthcare Vote

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http://www.infowars.com/call-your-senator-demand-debate-on-hr-3590/
November 21, 2009
Editor’s note: The Obamacare bill, HR 3590, is now in the Senate and faces a “cloture” on the “motion to proceed” today. Call your representative and tell him or her to vote against “cloture” (a motion to bring debate to an end). You can call your Senators toll-free at 1-877-762-8762. The alternate, non toll-free, number is 202-224-3121.
Help yourself to letting your Government know, Americans want a say in their lives, let those Senators know a vote for the Health-Care Bill from your Senator, equals a definite vote against him or her from you come election day!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/health/policy/22health.html
Mr. McConnell warned of the political consequences for senators who vote to move ahead. “Senators who support this bill have a lot of explaining to do,” Mr. McConnell said. “Americans know that a vote to proceed on this bill, to get on this bill, is a vote for higher premiums, higher taxes and massive cuts to Medicare.”
http://www.infowars.com/call-your-senator-demand-debate-on-hr-3590/

Paul Revere of TX 5:26PM November 21, 2009

Prolifers say "I don't want my taxes used for abortion." But that's not good money management? We pay $500,000 for EACH poor unwed mom & her unaborted child until it's l8. That's for welfare, ADC, food stamps, health care & subsidized housing. She can have as many kids as she can get public subsidy for. Big religious families can refuse to use birth control & abortion and present another tax-paid meal ticket with each birth. Because churches depend on women to create new generations of tithers, Ban-Abortion churches are the worst enemy of taxpayers. Not only do they create tax-burden welfare families..they don't pay taxes on their church property. They say they're nonprofit, but many churches sell stuff made by monks & nuns & congregation members- wine, cheese, jam, omelets, crucifixes, and items made by recycling olive trees from Israel. Women need protection from conception because it is historically an extremely dangerous condition. Under best conditions, billions of women "died in childbirth" since humanity evolved. Congress is mostly male. They cruelly expose women to danger they never risk themselves. Insulting the Speaker exposes low-class discourtesy, but Schaefer does it.

ajura dawnveirs of CA 1:00AM November 12, 2009

djm of SC, you seem to be unaware that 'private insurances' have been quadrupling the costs of healthcare over the last few years. So if you're worried about 'cost then double or triple' this healthcare reform is your cup of tea.
If your opinions on healthcare reform and morals are based on the profit and loss of health insurance companies, then no one is going to talk sense to you. Its easy to forget the Constitution tells us to 'promote the general Welfare', its easy to deny the long precedent of the American civic responsibility to take care of fellow Americans, or the Christian ethic to treat others as we would have them treat us.
If being brave means they're vulnerable, then Democrats politicians are doing the right thing to stand up for the people rather than try to uphold monopolies of the health insurance companies. Frankly Congressmen Joe Cao is a hero because, like he says, he voted in the best interest of his constituents. It took courage to vote against the GOP party line looking out for the best interests of insurance companies, both who seem to have no problem that thousands of Americans die every day because of lack of health insurance.
So if voting for what the majority of Americans want and need makes some Congressmen vulnerable, so be it. Its by far better to be on the side of the public and the 'better angels of our nature' as Lincoln declared.

Clyde of TX 10:23PM November 11, 2009

The Idea that the federal Government can make healthcare availble to all is just not practical. This will cause private insurances to fail over time resulting in a greater job loss to the private sector and burden the tax payer even further. If they "predict" this bill will cost us 1.2 trillion you better do your homework and see how off budget most programs really cost. This 1.2 trillion over ten years is based on the fact that only a very small percent of americans will even use the public option.So what if lets say 10 percent of the population or even more use this Government option. The cost then double or triple, and thats still based on just less than 30 percent of the population using it. So now we are at 3.6 trillion and not even half of us are using it but in time as private insurances fail more get on the gov option and cost sore so benefits WILL be cut. Now lets not forget that somewhere in the next 3 years that the 18 million illegal aliens here will somehow become legal thur the obama team so he can get there vote in 2012 and guess what insurance plan they will be on...Iam for reform but not the government run version.

djm of SC 10:41AM November 11, 2009

I'm one of the lucky employees who are offered a good health plan. Unemployment has affected my home as well as so many other Americans; but so far I've been blessed to still be employeed. But, to read Clinton's statement that an im-perfect systems is better to act on then to not bothers me because of our governments history of waste. I feel as though it is important to get it as close to perfect prior to putting something in place versus trying to continuously make corrections that will ultimately lead to millions of dollars in waste. I do belive that with so many people out of work, who fear a medical problem arising during such trying times, they do deserve to have a plan to help put that fear to rest. Our country can't afford to throw away millions of dollars trying to make it right, not right now when that money can be used to help those unemployed from losing everything they do have left: their homes, utility bills, food, cars, etc... I'm not opposed to a health care plan; I'd just like to see it be a sensible plan without resulting in more and more waste. Hopefully something can be presented during its run in the Senate that can fix the foreseeable kinks in the present plan.

Barely Making it already of TX 7:31PM November 10, 2009

Nice reporting and insight into this interesting vote, Linda!

Caroline of DC 9:30AM November 10, 2009

Some comments here are ridiculous. How can you say you are against the bill because it is taxpayer funded abortion when the article makes it very clear that there was a compromise so that NO TAXPAYER MONEY WOULD GO TOWARDS ABORTION.
Second, why on earth do you think the health insurance industry is lobbying so hard against this bill... Health insurance companies have a duty to their investors to be profitable which equals denying health care whenever possible.
As for how horrible the government is at providing healthcare, take a look medicare and medicaid. Are they the best forms of insurance out there.. of course not; however tell someone who is eligible for either of those that you are going to be taking it away and see how they respond. Although they are not the best managed systems, they are essential and crucial to this society.
On a final note, if I have to choose between having a bureaucrat and a health insurance agent decide on weather or not I get health care, I will gladly take the bureaucrat. If the bureaucrat doesn't have my best interest in mind... then off he goes next election. Wish I could do something when health insurance says no.

Jay of NY 3:26AM November 10, 2009