Why the National Debt Doesn't Matter--Right Now

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Every Boy Scout knows to leave the camp ground like we found it!

It's too bad that Most Democrats have been busy trying to kill off the Boy Scouts. Since I've been born, we have sunk this country over $15 Trillion dollars in Debt, that our children are supposed to pay? I was one of those Idiots back in the 1970's that Yelled "We're Mad as hell and not going to take it any more" off my porch after watching the movie "Network" on TV! YOUR Mentality is the Problem!! YOU are the Supporter of Corporate greed! The Clowns that YOU Keep in Office, that Lie to you over and over, are in the pockets of the Lobbyist!

Since the Movie Network premiered, we have sunk this country $15 trillion in debt. And the Clown in the White House is asking for 86 trillion more. To Give to his Corporate buddies that have set up shop in "No Union, No EPA, No Child Labor Laws, No Civil Rights" China! And you cheer it on yelling "Bush Did it!" Yep, You are to blame! Keep Fearing the TEA Party. Most

people Fear the truth!

Wardell of NC 7:09AM November 30, 2011

AAA rating doesn’t matter either. Higher interest rates if loss helps us spend our way out of recession…

One has to shake ones head at LIBERALS ideology. Is their liberal upbringing. All that time spent upside down as a child. Right John Aloysius Farrell, shoe shine boy…

Bill Hedges of MO 1:05PM October 29, 2010

I truly do not know why I respond to your idiodic blogs, Farrell! Your patterns of thinking has been proven to be skewed at every presentation!

Earlier, on another of your "blerps", one comment was suggested it would be more beneficial for you to "shoe-shine" somewhere in D.C.

...and I certainly second that suggestion strongly!

Haberdashery of ID 11:05AM October 29, 2010

Mr. Farrell's logic is 50 years old. The national debt is now forefront in everyone's mind and will have to be attacked on the spending side since there is no support for raising taxes in a recession-depression atmosphere. Mr. Farrell keeps on writing that this is not your father's Republican Party and he's right. Their feet will be held to the fire by their voters and their voters are in no mood for compromise.

David S. Levine of FL 9:47AM October 29, 2010

To open minded people who read peer reviewed scholarship, serious journalism and primary documents for information rather than corporate sponsered TP propaganda;

Obama's stimulus package has mostly helped the rich. Corporate profits reached over $1.6 trillion in the second quarter of this year (before taxes and dividend payments).

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/2010/txt/gdp2q10_3rd.txt

In addtion, Obama has not raised taxes on anyone and is only willing to allow the top margin to reset to 39.6% next year. Effective rates of taxation on everyone, including the rich have never been lower.

CBO data for 2006 shows an effective rate on the top one percent of 31% for all federal taxes but only 19% for individual income tax and 10% for corporate tax. The top one percent may pay nearly a third of their pretax income in taxes but they have nearly a fifth of the pretax income. This group had an average annual income of nearly $1.75 million.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2009/04/cbo-top-1-earned-19-of-income.html

It is also the case that the rich benefit disproportionately from the middle class tax cuts that will be left in place.

"...recent estimates from the Joint Committee on Taxation show that extending just the middle-class tax cuts would provide more than $6,300 in tax cuts to households with incomes above $200,000, on average, compared to $1,132 in tax cuts for households with incomes between $50,000 and $75,000. The Joint Tax Committee estimates show:Households with incomes exceeding $1 million will receive an average tax cut of $6,349 in 2011 if the middle-class tax cuts are extended while the high-income tax cuts are allowed to expire."

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3263

One reason we have yet another Jobless Recovery is higher productivity;

"The Bureau of Economic Analysis reports figures of $12.8806 trillion-in 2005 dollars-for 2009 and $12.9762 trillion for 2006). While these measures of total output produced are nearly identical, the figures for the number of workers employed and the number of work hours required to produce that output are strikingly different. In 2006, about 138.7 million workers...were employed, compared to only about 134.4 million in 2009. The total time spent at work, by all workers 16 and over, was about 18 billion hours fewer in 2009 than in 2006."

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0910reuss.html

Higher productivity allows the same quantity of output with far fewer workers.

Also, average spending is down due to low demand due to higher levels of income inequality;

Could it be...that effective demand is hampered by the degree of income concentration at the top...The top 1 percent of Americans got a little more than 8 percent of total income in the late 1970s, they now have 24 percent of income – a breathtaking increase Median incomes have hardly increased over the last three decades..

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/20134cf8-bf1e-11df-a789-00144feab49a.html

steve of IL 8:17PM October 28, 2010

I posted link here that said 3-4 out of 10 Tea are Democrats or Independents. I've seen no Republicans in Congress knocking Tea. Unless they lost to one like in Alaska.

Bill Hedges of MO 1:11PM October 28, 2010

A total opinion piece without evidence to support. Just a insult article. No longer the "t" word but "Tea Party crazies"and "Tea Party nuttiness.".

I posted link here that said 3-4 Tea are Democrats or Independents. I've seen no Republicans in Congress knocking Tea. Unless they lost to one like in Alaska.

The bathhouse jokes about you I use to ignore, but your lowbrow articles & TEA insulting got me doing bathhouse jokes as well. I'll stop when you do. You started long, long ago.

John F. Kennedy and Reagan agreed. Cutting taxes increase government revenue. That cutting taxes caused rich to pay more taxes. Caused Americas longest Bull Market:

“President Hoover dramatically increased tax rates in the 1930s and President Roosevelt compounded the damage by pushing marginal tax rates to more than 90 percent. Recognizing that high tax rates were hindering the economy, President Kennedy proposed across-the-board tax rate reductions that reduced the top tax rate from more than 90 percent down to 70 percent. What happened? Tax revenues climbed from $94 billion in 1961 to $153 billion in 1968, an increase of 62 percent (33 percent after adjusting for inflation)”

“.Thanks to "bracket creep," the inflation of the 1970s pushed millions of taxpayers into higher tax brackets even though their inflation-adjusted incomes were not rising. To help offset this tax increase and also to improve incentives to work, save, and invest, President Reagan proposed sweeping tax rate reductions during the 1980s. What happened? Total tax revenues climbed by 99.4 percent during the 1980s, and the results are even more impressive when looking at what happened to personal income tax revenues. Once the economy received an unambiguous tax cut in January 1983, income tax revenues climbed dramatically, increasing by more than 54 percent by 1989 (28 percent after adjusting for inflation).”

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2003/08/the-historical-lessons-of-lower-tax-rates

Don’t have time to look up source, but think Bush tax cuts increase was 4.6 % more revenue from rich...

Bill Hedges of MO 12:58PM October 28, 2010

Incurring debt in an economy that has a solid foundation, and is only temporarily faltering, is far different from adding a staggering debt load onto an economy that is fundamentally weak - perhaps even dying.

Our massive production potential pulled us out of the Great Depression and saved the world from fascism. Thanks to corporate greed and oppressive government/environmental regulation we have lost our industrial capacity and the ability to provide energy for ourselves. America's "Can Do!" attitude has been buried under Environmentalist Theology, outsourcing and union legacy costs. It is doubtful we will ever remedy this situation - and certainly it is impossible to do so in less than 20 years.

A nation cannot thrive on a diet of "service jobs" and paper shuffling.

The only things that might turn us around are empty bellies and wallets - short of that - we're toast.

America's time is over - the baton has been passed to China and a renewing Russia - we just haven't noticed yet.

Get used to "thinking small" and doing without.

R.L. Schaefer of CA 12:30PM October 28, 2010

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John A. Farrell

John A. Farrell

John Aloysius Farrell is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report. An award-winning Washington reporter, he has written for The Boston Globe and The Denver Post and is the author of Tip O’Neill and the Democratic Century and an upcoming biography of the great American defense attorney, Clarence Darrow.

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