Helen Thomas Should Have Quit Sooner

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In the first place, Thomas wasn't fired for her criticism of Israel; she was fired for her over the top remark that Jews should "go back to Germany and Poland." Considering that Nazi Germany initiated the Holocaust and that Poland was the location of all six death camps the remark seems to imply what she feels all Jews deserve. This is offensive to say the least.

A news agency can't retain someone who makes such remarks any more than they can retain someone who declares publically that "all Blacks should be sent back to Africa." It's unprofession at best and at worst outright bigotry. News Agencies have their reputation and credibility to protect. I've personally seen frequent harsh criticism of Israel in the broadcast media especially during times of severe military conflict. But these criticisms are specifically directed at Israel and the issues in question, not Jews themselves. And these critics certainly never made offensive and unwarrented suggestive references to the Holocaust.

steve of IL 6:31PM June 13, 2010

Oh my goodness. Here we go again. Charges of anti-semitism ringing through the airwaves against someone expressing a view against the state of Israel and the way it conducts its affairs. I take it that none of you have ever been to an all jewish country club or a country club where jews are excluded and have never heard comments made in these places when no one was looking or prying. The fact of the matter is is the lady is old. Probably a little bitter about the ways things have gone down since 1946 and just spoke before she considered the consequences. Is it not good to get these things out in the open. To here the way people really think and then have a lively debate about things that are to often just pushed under the table. I would imagine there are similar views hidden in the largest most lucrative board rooms in america. Give me a break . The lady is old. She has the right to say what she feels. Maybe a little too much rhetoric but wow what attention she got on the way out. You people are just too paranoid for me. People say things when they get mad that they really don't mean to say and don't really believe in. We have all done it. You cannot judge her on one comment.

For example my father fought in WW2. He hated the Nazis but did not entirely believe in the creation of the state of Israel in the first place. Its done so we have to live with it but oh what a problem it has caused he used to say.

George Larkin of OK 4:09PM June 13, 2010

"The Book of Genesis (Genesis 10:2 – 5) identifies Ashkenazim “Jews” as being a people in Europe. Do the research!"

I have done the research and the proper term is Ashkenazic Jews. Neither Ashkenazim nor Europe is mentioned in Genesis. How absurd!! You're not worth responding to.

To the fool who insultingly calls himself Goldberg when this is not his name consider this. Most of your out of context "facts" are wrong or distorted. In the first place, israel's nuclear program began with French aid in the early 1950s, not in the 1960s after Kennedy's death. In fact, it was the French that built the Dimona reactor in the Negev. US aid to Israel didn't drastically increase until after the 1973 War. Before that it averaged in the low tens of billions a year.

Your other claims are really absurd. So Israel is to blame for Social Security's insolvency and the lack of a universal health insurance program. You must be nuts. By the way your US casualty figures for the Iraq War are way off. Over 4,000 soldiers were killed in Iraq. Talk about disrespecting the troops, you don't even care about getting the casualty figures correct. Furthermore, Israel had nothing to do with the Iraq War; it was about oil, US hegemony in international relations and corporate contracts for Iraq's reconstruction. Nearly $100 billion were extended to US corporations since 2003 when we invaded and occupied the country; that's 75% of all the aid Israel has received since its inception over 60 years ago.

You blame al Qaeda on Israel? Al Qaeda was a product of the Soviet-Afghan War. Israel had nothing to do with it. Also, your claim that Israel caused 9/11 is equally stupid. No one believes that. The idea that high gas prices at the pump are Israel's fault is equally laughable. High gas prices have more to do with oil futures speculation, OPEC, corporate gauging and good old supply and demand. Guess you never studied economics much. The war on terror has nothing to do with Israel either. The Jihadists just don't want the US in the Middle East.

Of course, Israel distracts us from ecological concerns, Brilliant. The US media spends virtually no time discussing Israel at all and for the last ten years Israel has been completely ignored by both the Bush and Obama Administrations.

Finally, I want to address the question of the Arabs in Israel. The 4 million Palestinians that endure a brutal military occupation in the West Bank and Gaza deserve freedom and an end to the illegal occupation. But the conditions of the Arabs in Israel with Israeli citizenship have the best standard of living of any Arabs in the Middle East. They have free access to the best health care system in the world, the enjoy greater literacy, income, educational opportunities and even freedom. They can vote send representitives to the Israeli Parlaiment and serve as cabinet ministers and judges. This was not possible for Blacks in Aparthied South Africa.

Your ugly rant was quite ignorant.

Steve of IL 9:00PM June 09, 2010

Helen Thomas said something that needs to be said. Israel has to recognize the Palestinians as human beings who have a rught too exict. They have the right to live in peace. The UN created Israel but Israel does not pay attention to the UN.

michael Tomlinson of PA 1:10PM June 09, 2010

IN DEFENSE OF HELEN THOMAS

June 9, 2010

All the power and wealth Ashkenazim “Jews” have in Israel, in the States, and throughout the world, why are they attacking a helpless little elderly lady like Helen Thomas? I am appalled at the people who are aggressively attacking her and shocked at the lack of support for her. Isn’t it ironic that the US will pass Bills to deport the Mexicans and will condemn those who say that Europeans should go back to their lands? Israeli’s unconscionable bombing of Gaza and Lebanon and their vicious acts against the Turkish flotilla without US, UN, and world condemnation is outrageous. And now, cowards sit back and say nothing about what has been done to Helen Thomas. It will be interesting to see what they will do when European “Jews” come after them.

Ms. Thomas spoke the truth, and she is unfairly criticized for it. The Book of Genesis (Genesis 10:2 – 5) identifies Ashkenazim “Jews” as being a people in Europe. Do the research!

http://www.answers.com/topic/ashkenazi

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4PCTA_enUS332US332&q=Ashkenazim

Therefore, European “Jews” cannot be Shemites – not by any amount of conversion or submersion! Helen said these Europeans should get the Hell out of Israel. Well, she is right. This Land of Israel belongs to the GOD of Israel, and HE gave it to the SEED of Jacob – not to converts. Let us make no mistakes about the GOD that established the Land of Israel knows HIS Chosen/Covenant People.

Ms. Thomas is 89 years old and harmless. What the Ashkenazim “Jews”, the White House, and the media have done to her is cruel and unfair. At learning of Ari Fleischer’s statement that she should be fired, I was reminded of an entry in the book entitled The Classic Slave Narratives, Edited and with an Introduction by Henry Louis Gates, Jr, wherein is written about a Slave Master and his son who were both cared for by the same female slave up until her old age when she was too old to slave any more for them. The son had her taken into a swamp all by herself to die there. When I read this, I cried uncontrollably and could not get this woman off my mind for days. Now, a host of uncompassionate people has basically done the same thing to Helen Thomas. She has been verbally lynched, which is the age-old US means of ending the life of undesirables. All because Israelis, so-called “Jews” do not like what she said.

The European Israelis who are kept fed and fat off US tax dollars are running scared and for good reason and not because of terrorists. They know they do not have any ties to GOD’s Land of Israel. And their great fear of talk about them getting the Hell out of Israel and their not belonging in the Land of Israel should shed more interest in understanding what Ms. Thomas and Sholomo Sand are talking about.

Nevertheless, Askenazim know the Hebrew Scriptures backwards and forwards. Any time a people usurp another’s identity and land, they have to know everything in order to pull off such a fraud. They also know that their days are numbered. The CREATOR GOD is taking back HIS Universe, HIS Holy Land of Israel, and HIS Holy City Jerusalem. The signs are all there, and the European “Jews” know it, as they attempt to sabotage anyone and any country from precluding their efforts to maintain control of GOD’s Land! The problem is that Ms. Thomas did not reveal the whole truth of the matter.

All should know that the plagues upon the US are for its fixed oppression upon the Native Americans and Third-World countries, descendants of Slaves, the bombs upon Japan, and for a myriad of other injustices. And people should take notice of the Earthquakes, deadly storms, volcanic eruptions, oil and great destruction on the southern coast and in the Gulf of Mexico, and GOD only knows what else is to come because this is but the tip of the iceberg. The CREATOR is fed up with the evil and wickedness that is perpetuated on HIS CREATION and is doing something about it.

Yes, people wonder what in the world is happening to this world and cannot believe all that has befallen the US. Well, now you know. The CREATOR GOD of Israel is calling attention to HIMSELF and Judging the evil and wicked of this Earth and serving JUSTICE for those who have no voice. In the process HE is plaguing HIS Planet Earth with wonders and miracles in order that those who took part in the Slave Trade (Leviticus 26th and Deuteronomy 28th Chapters) will LET HIS PEOPLE GO to once again worship HIM in the Wilderness!

Recognize that the ONE True and Living GOD is the CREATOR GOD of Israel, and HE will be Exalted and Magnified. Moreover, do know that this Most High GOD is a JUST GOD and cares deeply for the fatherless, the poor, and the widow. And know also beyond a shadow of a doubt that HE will allow all who worship HIM according to HIS Ways to live in the Land of Israel if they choose to do so, and that would include the Palestinians!

The evil and heartless critics of Helen Thomas have done a grave injustice against a defenseless and harmless elderly woman, and what will GOD do in her favor?

I have nothing to fear but My GOD of Israel, so by all means do publish this information.

Tziona Yisrael

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1419629123/sr=8-6/qid=1152215959/ref=sr_1_6/002-5765394-4504857?ie=UTF8

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Tziona Yisrael of NJ 1:01PM June 09, 2010

In some respects, old age can have the same effect as booze and loosen the tongue. Thomas likely felt this way for much of her life, and only in old age did she allow her thought to escape her lips. Sad, but at least she will not be doing anything else to further embarass herself.

Puller58 of TX 6:46AM June 09, 2010

20. Paul Bremer, a coat holder for Henry “Iago” Kissinger, would have never been appointed Viceroy for an Occupied Iraq. No Israel. No Iraqi War. No Zionist Bremer as Viceroy of Iraq. (14)

21. One of the reasons the Warren Commission failed to properly investigate the murder of JFK was because of Arlen Specter (R-PA), a card carrying Zionist. He was then a “Special Counsel” to the Commission. He concocted the preposterous “Magic Bullet” theory, which shut down any real conspiracy-type probe. It is also interesting to note, that Jacob Rubenstein, aka, “Jack Ruby,” Lee Harvey Oswald’s murderer, had close ties to Meyer Lansky’s National Crime Syndicate. I believe the answer to who really plotted JFK’s killing, died with Oswald. In any event after JFK’s death, Israel’s nuclear weapons program, which he had opposed went ahead. U.S. aid to Israel also increased dramatically. (15)

22. There would have been no reason for a French Ambassador to refer to Israel as “that shitty little country.” (16) In fact, the Jews of the world would have been liberated to fulfill their deepest spiritual quest, as embodied in their religion – Judaism. According to the highly respected Orthodox Rabbi, Dovid Yisroel Weiss, “Zionism has hijacked Judaism.” The courageous Rabbi insists that, “Zionism creates anti-Semitism…And we know…Zionism is the root cause for the pain, suffering and bloodshed of the Jewish people…and, they, (the Zionists), are the greatest factory of anti-Semitism worldwide…Judaism and Zionism is not one and the same. They are diametrically opposite…We should not be mistaken one for the other. And, we shouldn’t be responsible for the actions of what the Zionists do…Now, another of the problems that emanate actually from the Zionist Movement is the fact that they are encroaching upon the rights of the Palestinian people, the indigenous people, who are living there. And, this is terribly wrong. It is against every concept of the Torah…So, whatever they are doing is totally wrong!” (17)

23. Thousands of Israelis have died attempting to build a nation in a land, Palestine, which belonged to another people, the Palestinians. Their deaths would have been avoided. (18)

24. The widespread spying on Americans, without a court order, by operatives of the Bush-Cheney Gang, would have never happened. (No Israel. No 9/11. No spying on U.S. citizens.)

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Nobel Goldberg of IN 4:33AM June 09, 2010

14. The 2,544 Americans who have died in Iraq would be alive; and the 18,777, who have been seriously wounded there, would be fully participating in our Republic. U.S. taxpayers would have an additional $295 billion, (the cost of the war), in the treasury to use to serve the social needs of the people. Universal Health Care would be a real possibility and Social Security would not be in jeopardy. Iraq would be at peace. There would be no Gitmo Bay detention center, or an Abu Ghraib Prison, or a reason for the Bush-Cheney Gang to gut Habeas Corpus. No need for it to also employ torturers, or chemical weapons, or hold detainees without charges or trial. The Geneva Convention would be respected. The tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis, who have died as a result of the war, would instead be alive today. (At the following footnote, see horrific photos of some of the Iraqi dead.) (9)

15. The battle to save our planet, its fragile ecosystem, its fast vanishing animal life and plants and to combat global warming, would be issue “No. 1.” (10) Instead, we are perpetually bombarded with propaganda about defending “Israel’s security.”

16. If there was no Israel, then the “five dancing Israelis” on 9/11 wouldn’t have been arrested. They were nailed after “celebrating” in NJ, while watching the Twin Towers collapsed. (11)

17. U.S. taxpayers would be $140 billion richer! This is the staggering amount they have shelled out over the last 58 years to support the ultra-greedy interests of the Zionist Cartel. (3)

18. The 34 Americans onboard the USS Liberty, who were slaughtered by the IOF, on June 8, 1967, would be alive today; and the 174 others who had suffered injuries that day would not have had to endure their horrific experiences. The shame the U.S. carries for not having quickly defended the men of the Liberty, and retaliated against the Israelis for their deliberate attack on the vessel, would have been avoided. (12)

19. On June 13, 2006, the IOF killed ten Palestinians, including three medical workers and two children, in the Gaza Strip. The Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, labeled the missile attack an example of “state terrorism.” Only God knows how many Palestinians the Israelis have actually wasted since 1948; or exactly how many refugees it has created, or how many homes, a la Oliver Cromwell, the IOF have demolished. None of this would have been possible without the dubious “state of Israel.” (13)

20. Paul Bremer, a coat holder for Henry “Iago” Kissinger, would have never been appointed Viceroy for an Occupied Iraq. No Israel. No Iraqi War. No Zionist Bremer as Viceroy of Iraq. (14)

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Nobel Goldberg of IN 4:31AM June 09, 2010

“Imagine there’s no countries…Nothing to live or die for…Imagine all the people living life in peace.” – John Lennon

Thanks mostly to U.S. President Harry S. Truman and his “susceptibility to Zionist influence,” Israel came into existence in 1948. (1) Humanity, and in particular, the Palestinians, have paid dearly for his decision. The land on which the Palestinians had been living for centuries, in peace, with a minority Jewish population, has been gradually transformed into an Apartheid state by the machinations of the Zionist Movement. That Apartheid state, in turn, is today dominated by Israel’s Death-Mayhem-and- Occupation Machine. (2)

One wonders: What would the world look like today, if the state of Israel had not been created in 1948? Its improvident formation seems to have set in motion a chain of events, mostly negative, in the affairs of Mankind. In the movie, “Click,” the lead character finds a “universal remote” that allows him to rewind to different parts of his life and to change what had happened. If I possessed such a “universal remote” and could stop President Truman from aiding and abetting the establishment of an Israeli state, then, it is my speculation, (a theory), that the following 25 propositions would probably be our present day reality. They are:

1. The U.S. would not have any enemies in the Islamic World.

2. There would be no Al-Qaeda Terrorist Network.

3. Gasoline would be selling for less than $1 a gallon.

4. There would have been no 9/11.

5. There would be no USA Patriot Law.

6. There would be no Homeland Security Agency.

7. The Israeli Lobby’s “unmatched power” over the U.S.’ foreign policy, for over four decades, would not had existed. (Its support for the Iraqi War was deemed by the experts to be “critical.”) (3)

8. There would also not have been any Neocon ideologues; like Paul Wolfowitz, William Kristol, Richard Perle, et al, to help, (along with other “Special Interests”), to push the U.S. into an illegal war with Iraq. (4)

9. Iran would not be the next target for U.S. aggression. (No Israel. No “A Clean Break” document. No Israeli Lobby. No Neocons. No need for the U.S. to attack Iran.) (5)

10. The Zionist fink, Jonathan Pollard, wouldn’t be in prison for stealing U.S. military secrets and hawking them to Israel.

11. The three million-plus Palestinians, who were forcefully dispersed from their homeland, since 1948, by the Israeli Occupation Forces, (IOF), would, instead, be living happily there today, in a free and independent state of Palestine. There would be no Apartheid Wall, or as a corollary, a Hamas organization. (6)

12. Jerusalem would have a vibrant Christian population. (7)

13. Rachel Corrie of Olympia, WA, would be alive and well. (8)

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Nobel Goldberg of IN 4:30AM June 09, 2010

Helen Thomas didn't lose her job because of her views on Israel. She lost her job because of a rank display of bigotry which was understandably found to be offense to many people, not only Jews. No news organization with a reputation to protect can retain a person viewed as a high profile bigot. This would be damaging to both their credibility as a news agency and their public image.

Furthermore, if Ms.Thomas made a similar type of remark about any other ethnic, religious or racial group she would have met a similar fate.

steve of IL 7:01PM June 08, 2010

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