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Barack Obama, Gay Marriage and the Rick Warren Inaugural Fight: Letting Him Talk is Smart Politics

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Okay all you enraged people. Get your head on straight. It's not about people having the same rights as others, because EVERYONE has the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. It's not about people pluging in their religion into politics, because He was taken out of authority a long time ago. It's about morality. Some people say morality is relative, which no one in their right mind should believe because it is immoral for me to kill whoever I feel like. So there is a standard, and frankly, just look at nature, from penguins to lions to even flowers have a male and female. Think logically for one second, I know people don't use logic much anymore, but if it were suppost to be GLBT, than why can humans only reproduce through male and female intercoarse? If you take a step back you can see that only people who's mind has been perverted, by society or themselves, think that it's not that way.
So you're asking the most powerful government in the world to say it's okay for something that is counter human to be accepted as good and right by authority. I'm sorry, but no matter how much you push "toleration" it shouldn't happen. You wouldn't and you shouldn't tolerate someone doing something that is wrong. If someone is wrong they are "holding an incorrect opinion about a person, thing, or matter"1
It's really not that complex. So, seriously?! live the way you're suppost to, and stop complaining.
1. Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Sergio Castillo of FL 1:05PM March 18, 2009

well what i think about obamas saying about gay marrige is that is fair it should not be against the law because what about if someone of obamas reletives wanna get marriege amd they are gay they are ganna be allowed to be marride but not gay marrige thats no fair i thing gay marrige should be allowed in this state becaz if not alot of people are ganna leave to get married in a other place n they are ganna come back well thats my opinion i dont know about others!

maria of CA 5:06PM January 23, 2009

I think that Gay Marriage should be proven why is because they are people just like us. And we don't need to treat them no different than we treat the people who do marry me and women. In judge them about who they want to be with in life and spent the rest of there lives with. I think you give them i chance because people are going top be with who they want to be with.
You shouln't treat them like thee anmails that's in the zoo. It's wrong i think poeple should get marry to who they want to be no matter what color they are as long as there happy.So don't judge people because they want to be with men and men and women and women.It's wrong and you should be ashame of your self. Think let them live there life you are so why can't they live it the same way you do...

Raven McJoy of AR 10:27AM January 06, 2009

For Pres. Elect Obama to Choose Warren to give a prayer is as if he selected a KKK member to do so. Hi arrogance in his "bringing folks together" agenda is out of CONTROL. OK Mr. President you ENJOYED million of GLBT votes this last election let alone our millions of dollars.......Don't even expect it in the future!

Thomas Rossi of CO 5:00PM January 02, 2009

Okay, this is getting so old. I have been on the fence about the whole gay marriage thing, but this issue is really burning itself out. Please stop with trying to push your views on EVERYBODY. Once I heard about people protesting in front of churches, that was definately crossing the line. Now your going after Obama for the selection of a particular preacher to say the prayer? Hello people! You're going to have a hard time finding a preacher who believes in gay marriages. That's just the way it is! I don't know who your PR person is but I'm not the only one getting tired of the whinning. I got bills I can't pay. A job I can't seem to get and a house I'm desparately trying to hold on to. Those are the issues the MAJORITY of the people are interested in at the moment. It's not all about you and your issues. Let it go, you're just making yourselves look bad.

Keisha in Oaktown of CO 4:53AM December 31, 2008

Another Civics 101 failure.
You do not live in a Democracy.
You live in a Representative Democratic Republic with a Tri-Parte Government with co-equal branches and a Constitution that guarantees equal protection and equal rights.
"The people have spoken" is a simplistic response to a complex issue and totally ignores the way the government you supposedly grew up under (I am assuming you are a native born American Citizen) works. The people CAN overrule judges but in order to do so they must change the very documents that govern our society, in this case the Constitution. And in California they did not do that the proper way.
Please go back to school and refrain from making such simplistic and ignorant comments until after you do.
Thank you.

Agentprovokatur of CA 6:50PM December 24, 2008

Judith I am glad to see you agree with civil unions concerning Gays. Thats cool. I am glad to see you have donated your time for the Aids Project. Thats cool. You must be a good person. I dont understand why you are suggesting some are having "tantrums" and at the same time indicating that Gays are LESS mature and LESS than you are? I dont understand why God HAS to be the end all of(as far as you are concerned)everyone and everything. Had you ever considered some dont think your way? You think church and State are one in the same? Maybe just maybe if God hadnt been invoked during conflicts and wars there wouldnt have been wars and conflicts. Your idea of Marriage being between a man and woman for "thousands" of years is just ludicrous. Women were PROPERTY for thousands of years. Read your history. Women didnt get many "rights" until 1893 and they had STARTED the movement in 1848. That right was the right to VOTE. Hmm 45 years for women to get the RIGHT to vote and that was only in Colorado. I wont even go into our colored brethren's plights. Read your history. So as a woman, lets just say that never happened, would you be a tad upset? I think you would be. What Gays are seeking are the SAME rights you have, the same legal protections and benefits "marriage" has given you. Tax benefits, lower insurance rates etc etc etc. We dont have those, you do. In my opinion I would be happy to have a "Civil Union" as long as we had the same rights you enjoy. I dont care to invoke God or all his religions in my civil union.
As for the "hysteria" you claim Gays are exhibiting concerning Warren. You were not accused of being a pedophile, Gays were. I saw and heard him on TV saying this. You were not accused of being rapists, Gays were. I saw and heard him on TV saying this. You as a woman was not degraded and dehumanized as more animal then anything else, Gays were. I saw and heard him on TV saying this. If you had those things said about you wouldnt you be a tad unhappy?

rick of NM 9:04PM December 23, 2008

....*except* when religious fundamentalists choose to voice ignorant and dehumanizing superstition, which is then arrogantly referred to as "truth". You've marched in a few AIDS walks, so that makes you an expert on humanity? "Some of my best friends are gay..." As an institution, marriage has changed many times over the past 5,000 years-- this is another change, which folks like you don't have the ability or grace to fathom. Gay couples enjoy the same psychological complementarity that hetero couples do, and biology isn't everything. Otherwise you'd be arguing for banning marriage for couples unable to conceive. Gay marriage is not going to decrease or change in any way the marriages of heterosexual people. And do you still need to be reminded that in America we value separation of church and state. You can believe whatever you like, but when your beliefs dehumanize others and affect their well-being, you have crossed a line. Ultimately, we will win this battle, because freedom and equality define the American way.

David of MN 9:43AM December 23, 2008

It should amaze me that this individual was chosen but it doesn't. I saw Obama for the two faced bigot he is. Choosing someone who campaigned for Prop 8 and preached LIES in order to get it passed (hmm isn't lying a sin!!!)just shows how much Obama truly is for GLBT rights. Choosing someone who spews hate speech against a minority population in this country that he ACTIVELY courted for their money is disgraceful. What happened to Obama "I'll always do the right thing" ? I guess the right thing is appeasing the hate mongers. Well the glass has now been officially shattered - get ready for more anti-gay rhetoric from the Obama camp. And as for this tragic "article" I wonder if a black man was dragged behind a car in Texas and beaten to death if you'd tell the black community to get over it. Or did you already forget Matthew Shephard's death - no we will NOT GET OVER IT. No more second class citizenry and hypocrisy!!!!

Of Sound Mind of CA 11:55PM December 22, 2008

R.L. Schaefer of CA, here are your own words back to you with sexuality distinctions replaced by racial distinctions:
"Marriage is a word that, historically means, a life long union between two WHITE people. Blacks want that meaning broadened to encompass their type of union. However, many of us whites prefer to have black unions defined in a way that illustrates the difference. This effort to blur the lines of society, in order to be inclusive and tolerant, is simply a step toward the ultimate removal of all moral boundaries in our culture."
NOW can you see yourself for the bigot that you are?
It's like you're almost proud of your discriminatory attitude. It's chilling how oblivious you are to your own bigotry. I guess that's how anti-black people were in the 60s too.

Joyce of CA 7:35PM December 22, 2008