Shriver Report Has More Bad News Than Good for Working Women

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Work is a pain; always has been, always will be.

Don't expect the system to change because it doesn't fit into your life plan. The sad fact of the matter is you need to change your life plan to fit system. Men have been doing this for hundreds and thousands of years with little concern for anything else but how much more work can be squezed from them.

It seems to me many women have the taste for success but a distaste for sacrifice. The system should be changed to accomadate?

Women have fought hard to share the fruits of the work and career worlds. Don't cry when you find out the fruit isn't as sweet as you thought.

boo-hoo of NY 5:18PM October 26, 2009

I very much agree with this article. I think this continued overmothering and underfathering is holding women's progress back with many ramifications for women, and perhaps just as importantly, for children of both genders.

I think our slowness in reaching equality is also significantly harming children of both genders. I grew up in a patriarchical family and my father's inability to connect and be there for my brother and me has caused us a great deal of difficulty in our lives. It is critical I think to improve the quality of fathering in the US (and this is not just in poor families but also in middle class and wealthy families).

I am a 40-something lawyer and so am not in the Steinem generation of feminism. I grew up with Title IX. I think some women of my generation were naive and unprepared (and perhaps lazy) about what it was going to take to make the final push to get to equality in public life and hence many women of talent (including those who obtained degrees at the very law, medical, business schools to which Steinem's generation worked to get us access) chose to seek high status men as husbands and power and authority over children by being stay-at-home mothers instead of balancing this with the final trudge to equality in public life. It is indeed a terrible shame, as we have wasted a generation or two in women's progress, and many children are still suffering from not enough fathering.

kansasrefugee of CO 9:30PM October 20, 2009

We've known for some time that the tipping point for the number of women in the workforce would come. While I acknowledge women's progress in the workforce - (albeit in baby steps) if we're still getting paid less for the same job and reaching the corner office still comes as a difficult task - there's a mountain of work to be done. But I see two distinct issues here.

The treatment of women in the workforce & work life policy in general that impacts men and women with regard to family concerns.

I think you said it best here Bonnie:

" Second, it's very hard to combine a high-powered career and children, for men and women. And men have been slow in coming to recognize that if their women are going to be breadwinners, too, then men have to pick up half the work of child-rearing. "

I agree with you Bonnie that men need to take on more responsibility, but I do understand the social conditioning that has fostered that. And there's also got to be the desire on the part of men, to want that kind of change.

That being said, it's not just about changing the paradigm around how women are treated, it's about family leave and child care, flexibility, wellness, and employees being treated with respect as human beings - it's about an entire shift in our work life culture.

The entire corporate structure needs a rewiring of consciousness around our workplace culture and a better integration of our working and living experience. If not - no matter the gender - we're all going to burn out.

Judy Martin of NY 12:10PM October 19, 2009

Anthropologists say women & children, gathering seeds, roots & leaves, brought to family diets MOST of the family diet. Males, physically bigger & stronger, no doubt killed lots of animal food. But who says women didn't invent slingshots when they were making animal skin totes for babies? Maybe women invented bows & arrows after they chipped flints to scrape skin off meat? There must have been large, tall women who threw spears. Tracking would be natural for women who had to keep close watch on children. Surely women & children helped cut up & bring home prey. Women probably made footwraps for everyone. Did a man or woman notice fire could be carried in a burning branch? Who first noticed that after distant thunder there were floods & mudslides and told tribes to go uphill? Humanity survived through cooperative use of natural skills. Through natural selection, the most intelligent people were attracted to like kind, not always the most handsome or beautiful. When women abort conceptions because they don't want to bear offspring of a particular man, they are beneficially eugenically advancing evolution of humanity. Equal pay for same work will help everybody.

aura dawn veirs of CA 11:54PM October 18, 2009

If more women are in charge- CEOs, managers, engineers, etc. then they should be the ones to adjust processes, products, practices to be what works for women. They should know from their experience what other women want. I sure don't know!

Jeff of WV 1:34PM October 16, 2009

There is going to be a huge torrent of vital statistical data concerning the affect of the current U.S. president on workweek produictivity and self-organizing. It can be said at this point that this year will have seen a radical shift of productivity to the front of the week.

Monday is traditionally of course the weakest day. So I guess if you like ramrodding, if you liked the David Stockman approach, the current president has "been effective." But in statistics there is never a single final outcome. Just as Tchaikovsky never repeats the beginning of "Swan Lake" which is its only well-known part, a year-long result of effort being forced to go to the front of the week is simply one of many events which the wonder of statistics will reveal.

Don Treact of WA 8:28PM October 15, 2009

Back in cave man days the strong hairy chested guy who could brought home the mammoth haunch, thick furs, claw necklaces, built big fires and killed the invading "whatever" probably had the nicest spot in the cave and the prettiest girl.

The little scrawny wimp got the smokey part of the cave and he and his scruffy girlfriend ate moles and gophers. If she was lucky she got a crow foot necklace for the winter solstice.

Today, only the props have changed. The best provider gets the good stuff.

R.L. Schaefer of CA 5:54PM October 15, 2009

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Bonnie Erbe is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report and hosts PBS's weekly news analysis program, To the Contrary with Bonnie Erbe. She also writes a weekly syndicated newspaper column for Scripps Howard News Service.

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