Climate Change Raises Threat of Global Starvation

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“All of the arguments posted here as comments and which are against climate change, came from the pen of Mark Morano.”

That’s not true, and I resent your implication of plagiarism. I already cited my sources and Mark Morano is not one of them. Furthermore, I am not Mark Morano. I have used my actual first name and my actual state of residence. With your false and reckless claim you are either lazy, dishonest, or both.

Climate change hysteria is just an excuse for more taxes and government control needed to advance the real objectives of socialists. From the beginning, they have always reached for pseudo-scientific rationales to conceal their true motivations, which is jealous greed for the property of others. So they oppose private property. This becomes clearer when watching the video listed below drawing parallels between the words Socialists and the words of Environmentalists. It shows their agenda in their own words, where man-made global warming is just the latest disguise.

Your attempt here is about as close as the AGW believers get to defending their position. Scientists concerned with their reputations find it increasingly difficult to support the man-made global warming theory, unless they are dependent on political patronage, or otherwise have a career hopelessly tied to it. In that case their support is required.

Barry of CA 11:39AM May 19, 2009

OK. I did not quote the ad correctly. But, you should get the point. All of the arguments posted here as comments and which are against climate change, came from the pen of Mark Morano. He was once an aide to Oil State Senator James Inhofe and had a very explicit reason to sew fear and doubt and spread false information as if it were true.

Hold on to your beliefs folks. You won't suffer the consequences. It will be your children and their children and they will hate you for what you did not do.

GreenArrow of CA 5:02PM May 17, 2009

I originally wrote the next three comments as one comment. But for reasons I still don't know, that comment was deleted several times by the censor after I posted it and after it appeared for several minutes each time in the column below. Somehow I was allowed to break it into three sections and post each separately below, but unfortunately they now show up in reverse order. Therefore please read the following three comments in this order so that they make sense:

1) Attn: Censor,

2) Attn: Censor, (second time)

3) Attn: Censor, (Third time)

Below that you can see where I explained to Mike of WA how the original comment, "mysteriously disappeared". It also "mysteriously disappeared" several more time after that, and still doesn't appear in this column anywhere. I expect 'revert wars' from the AGW zealots at Wikipedia (which is why I don't edit there), not USN&WR. I am painfully familiar with AGW believers’ insistence on deleting what they cannot refute; as if the First Amendment only protects the rights of people they agree with. USN&WR has a very long tradition of looking at all sides of issues, even those Mortimer Zuckerman himself disagrees with. Therefore we can respectfully disagree, and hopefully continue to do so in a civilized manner.

Barry of CA 9:42PM May 14, 2009

Seeing how, for the moment, you have allowed my posts of May 14, 2009 19:19:37 PM & May 14, 2009 19:23:05 PM to remain, I’m not sure why you deleted them when they were included together in my original comment with this title and this conclusion:

Title: Climate Change LEGISTLATION Raises Threat of Global Starvation

Converting food to fuel is a colossal waste of resources, showing that leftist environmental policies result from ‘warm fuzzy feelings’ not any well thought out approach to the challenges we all face. The most relevant scientific literature on this subject, reviewed and summarized by a scientist in the following journal article, will help you to understand what we must do to prevent the sort of disasters that Ms. Erbe described here. But I doubt she would agree.

http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/GWReview_OISM150.pdf

The left only pretends to care about science. Man-made global warming is really just an attempt to rationalize the taxation and government control needed for Socialism, which cannot be justified on it own merits. In fact, they don't even have a record to stand on, because their predicted disaster scenario didn't happen, as illustrated by the following facts, which they cannot honestly explain:

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/HANSEN_AND_CONGRESS.jpg

http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1988/1988_Hansen_etal.pdf

Barry of CA 7:37PM May 14, 2009

You have now deleted my comment Four or five times, but I don’t know what it is about it you object to. So I have to ask again. Was this the problem? :

Title: Climate Change LEGISTLATION Raises Threat of Global Starvation

"We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

-A petition signed by 31,478 American scientists-

http://www.petitionproject.org/

Barry of CA 7:23PM May 14, 2009

You have now deleted my comment three or four times, but I don’t know what it is about it you object to. So I have to ask. Was this the problem? :

Title: Climate Change LEGISTLATION Raises Threat of Global Starvation

"The recent rise in corn prices--almost 70 percent in the past six months--caused by the increased demand for ethanol biofuel has come much sooner than many agriculture economists had expected.

According to the United States Department of Agriculture, this year the country is going to use 18 to 20 percent of its total corn crop for the production of ethanol, and by next year that will jump to 25 percent. And that increase, says Marshall Martin, an agriculture economist at Purdue University, "is the main driver behind the price increase for corn."

The jump in corn prices is already affecting the cost of food. The most notable example: in Mexico, which gets much of its corn from the United States, the price of corn tortillas has doubled in the past year, according to press reports, setting off large protest marches in Mexico City. It's almost certain that most of the rise in corn prices is due to the U.S. ethanol policy, says David Victor, director of the Program on Energy and Sustainable Development at Stanford University. "

http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/18173/

Barry of CA 7:19PM May 14, 2009

I actually wrote something to that effect, which mysteriously disappeared. Good thing I save a backup copy so I can post it again.

Barry of CA 7:02PM May 14, 2009

The title should be "Mindless spending on global warming, er, climate change (er whatever the hell we're calling it this week) legislation raises threat of global starvation.

Is climate change real? of course. That's why there's four seasons. But, newsflash, we really don't have a lot to do with it.

Mike of WA 6:43PM May 14, 2009

I would hate to assume any direct linkage between small changes in average global temperature and drought conditions. But I should point out that the climate has been cooling from 2007 until now as indicated in the graph you will see if you follow the link below. We know from historical records, archeological records, and geological records that the Vikings farmed Greenland in much warmer times, where no one can farm it today. Warming would actually increase the amount of land available for farming, as it did in the past. Unfortunately recent experience tells us that there is nothing we can do to cause global warming even if we needed to. That only comes from the Sun. What's worse is that the geological record tells us that we are due to start another ice age. So I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with the article you referenced. Rather than working to control CO2, we should be working to increase the acreage and productivity of farmland, as we will need as much of it as we can get if global temperatures start coming down significantly in the future.

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/HANSEN_AND_CONGRESS.jpg

Barry of CA 2:47PM May 14, 2009

Where I live in Central Texas used to be under sea water. The sea levels have rizen and fallen throughout the history of the earth. There is nothing man made about it.

Mary of TX 12:13PM May 14, 2009

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Bonnie Erbe is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report and hosts PBS's weekly news analysis program, To the Contrary with Bonnie Erbe. She also writes a weekly syndicated newspaper column for Scripps Howard News Service.

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