The Obama-Clinton Struggle Has Broken the Democratic Party

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The longer this primary dragged on the more I was convinced we were getting Hillary crammed down our throats no matter what. What a blessed relief to be wrong, but, then again, maybe not. It isn't actually over yet.

The press, complicit with corporations and the republicans and the do-nothing incumbent democrats and Hillary Clinton will have us believe we are a nation of blue collar workers, over 50 white women, blacks, jews, etc. of one mind-set. Only sheeple will lap this crap up and run with it.

They create these issues and dwell on them to great extents to avoid the real issues of which they don't have a clue that we might actually know what those might be. They think they control what we will think the issues are because they tell us what they are.

Hay corporate media, here's a freebie: I support Obama because he is maybe the least of the three evils I am allowed to vote for. My first choice was Kucinich, but corporations didn't like him... too good for America and too bad for corporations and so he had to go.

I have been a Democrat my whole life. Mid-term elections we were lied to wholesale by the Democratic party. They were going to impeach a corrupt President and White House... they were going to stop an immoral war. The DNC remained silent and even enabled the minimizing of very fine candidates and we were given a choice of three. A glaring WTF compared to the Republican primaries which handily managed six candidates.

The Republicans have shown their true nature and sadly, so have the Democrats. I will not support the DNC and I do not consider myself to be a Democrat from this day forward. I have nothing but distain and mis-trust for our government, our institutions, the FCC, FISA, the Fed, the FDA, you name it. Everything from the food we eat and the water we drink and everything we think we know is corrupt and we the people are a disposable commodity and you have killed this planet.

The media has exonerated itself for its part, and isn't that just ducky. Another business day, and nothing changes. Sleep well.

wanda o. of CO 2:15AM June 05, 2008

Father Day Reflection on Election Campaign 2008 :

Election 2008 is not a election but a decision for homecoming. Americans are on the crossroad of homecoming or a journey to the abyss. They are currently facing Great Depression II and the only conscious solution is to repeat what they had done in the last Depression and emerged as a much stronger country. In the 1930s Americans were smart enough not to elect a politician as president but to return home to their parents, FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt, who had nurtured them back to health and wealth. Today, we are facing the same dilemma, should Americans elect a radical politician who has given them empty promises? Or, to return home to their parents, John and Hillary? The choice is really quite simple. Obama and Black supporters reminisced wrestlers whose matches are pre-arranged and play by hitting under the belt theatrics causing economic downturn just to win. So, stop watching American games. Obama's white supporters are insulting their own race as incompetent and incapable of managing their own country . Whether Obama will be elected his "super delegates", who endorsed at other's expense, must be sentenced to live in Black neighborhoods for more than four years to find out what they are really like. The democratic governor of Oklahoma who had just endorsed Obama must be executed for causing their supernatural tornadoes. The communication media of the U. S. are circus clowns not worth commenting on because they have never given any honest election comments. American voters in general are "blind" to good judgement. Hillary Clinton, best American candidate in history, can be identified with a unspoiling mother who has wasted her own $10 million just to warn her stubborn and ignorance daughter not to date strangers in the street. John McCain who has shown the ability to set aside party differences for the common good, working relentless for the American by running on many elections and his decency has earned the trust of most Americans. Together as a team John and Hillary will carry Americans out of the current Great Depression. But will a good father send his children to early grave for a war that cannot be won? Obviously, our parents are much older and less handsome than us but they have the experience we rely on and care we need. Happy Father Day!

fan chor-cheung 7:22AM June 04, 2008

What a post! It is totally absurd. What group is being placated, african-americans, young people, who? For you and others not to acknowledge that based on the exit polls along that a large share of voters that voted for Hillary voted because of racial reasons. Of course, you never mention that, you never talk about the racism this man has faced. By the way, if this was a fix by the so called far left, tell me why he won so many primaries? Why did he have a pledge delegate lead? Why did Obama win more contest? Why did your so called candidate have to retract her own comments about " Florida and Michigan?" Of course, you don't have a legit answer because there simply is not one. Hillary ran a terrible campaign with money mismanagement, over confidence, and a lack of strategy. Is it Obama fault that her former campaign manager had been caught watching soap opera during working hours. Why don't you stop making excuses and accept that Obama won fair and square.

If any good thing has come out of this it is that we now know who the true democrats are and who are not. I guess my african-americans friends now know that for way to many white democrats...african-americans are only good democrats, if they vote for a white democrat. If the democratic party ends, maybe it should end. I think we've learned our party...for to many of us that we're no different that racist republicans. I guess the new motta for Hillary supporters goes something like this, "we're only democrats, if we elect white democrats."

Paul McKesson of CA 11:12PM June 03, 2008

You neglected the fact that Hillary Clinton won more popular votes and those caucuses are crooked bully pu;pits. She won the biggest states, too, then they awarded more delegates to Obama from these crooked causcuses. It is very illogical that one can win a state and the loser gets more delegates. South Carolina and New Hampshire were not punished for jumping the gun in the primary. Why not? That's fair? Then, the super delegates are a farce. They should be eliminated. It is just an ego trip for them.

Katherine of 10:08PM June 03, 2008

Deb of California:

Sisters, you and I. Though not by blood, by what is right.

Katherine of IN 10:00PM June 03, 2008

Don't you see the writing on the wall? It's been there for a while, and it's getting clearer all the time. It looks like a campaign banner, reading:

OBAMA/CLINTON 2008

You're going to be surprised how quickly the democratic mainstream patch up their differences when they suddenly see Obama and Clinton standing together in the spotlight. Those who remain too angry to think clearly about what's really at stake will be quickly marginalized.

What all of this has been leading up to is the perfect November storm.

Tiberius of IN 6:59PM June 03, 2008

The national media have definitely been biased against Hillary Clinton these past six months, and their kid-gloves treatment of Obama was every bit as bad as that "Saturday Night Live" parody. That being said, Obama is the superior candidate. Hillary Clinton has made no pretense of being the candidate of all the people: She portrays every disagreement with her as evidence of a right-wing conspiracy (which, presumably, now includes half of the Democratic Party). Moreover, what has she done to prove that she would accomplish anything?

Her alleged area of expertise is health care, but what has she actually achieved since her disastrous plan of 1993? The only "experience" that she has ever demonstrated is that she was in the White House at the same time Bill was.

Obama has managed to defeat an established political family, and he has learned from his mistakes; he knows how to talk to independents and Republicans without labeling them as personal enemies; and he's managed to energize a lot of people who would normally sit out the election. The fact that he can snow the media is no flaw, either: It worked for FDR! He deserves the nomination.

JohnBrown of NY 5:51PM June 03, 2008

You can't break what is already broken. The Southern Conservatives have kept their influence in local politics as Democrats for the last time. They have worked with Republican Conservatives to insure Congressional gerrymandering and a reelection fix.

We need to recognize a Liberal Party and a Conservative Party before we can have a choice in national elections.

Obama and Clinton represent the Conservative Democrats who promise everything to everyone and anything to anyone. McCain is the Republican Conservative poster boy.

There is no choice but to throw the babies out with the bath water.

Morton Kurzweil of FL 1:54PM June 03, 2008

To the mudlsinger above, I don't think it's going to work this time. Lots of people are finally wise to the tactics. And from what I read, your hero Rove is also landing in some hot water.

Not once have I heard Senator Obama insult Senator Clinton, not once, so why are Senator Clinton's supporters blaming him? It's not himdoing that, get it? It is irrational to hand the presidency over to another Republican over this, and we all have paid and are paying enough due to the Republican "leadership" over the last nearly a decade.

I am tired of the mudslinging tactics and really like Senator Obama's more rational approach. I plan to vote for the Democratic nominee, but have become more and more disappointed with Senator Clinton lately in the way she has brought up race and even said McCain was a better choice than Obama. I have not heard him denigrate her in such ways, but the other way around.

Libby of AK 1:42PM June 03, 2008

The sad fact that is overlooked is that neither of the Democratic frontrunners (former frontrunners?) gave a damned bit of substance with their splash. "Change you can believe in" is hog wash and "it is time for women" is bigger hog wash. Neither Hil nor Obama did anything to make me believe that either is interested in fixing anything. Neither made noise about Darfur that would make me believe that they were capable of bringing the strength of the US and its people against the murderers. Neither made noise about clitorectomies done in Sudanese churches. Neither made noise about Iran and nukes. Neither made noise about making us independent of Arab shiekdoms and Venezuelan midgets who control more oil than they should. Their worthless minions have done nothing to give me confidence.

Then there is the sorry spouse aspect. I know, the other half is not running. But Bill is a disgrace and just does not get it. Michelle is an entitlement witch who thinks that she is smarter than everyone else and damned condescending. Sort of like HIl when she was first lady.

Then there is the media embarassment. Dowd hates (jealousy?) of Hil. No one honest thinks Obama is more than naive. And that nit Chris Matthews gets a warm feeling coming up his leg when he sits with Obama. There has not been a single intelligent question asked of either of them by any of the talking heads and Olbermann needs meds to help him grow up.

Erbe, at least, is being honest when she says that she believes that our party has evicerated itself. And the comment that SanFranGranNan, HawwyWeed, and Doctor Dean may by their foolishness, by their whoring, by their condescending attitudes, and by their refusal to see that there are folks outside who want to kill some of us, cost the party the election.

Damn them all.

I may end up voting for an elephant for the first time in my life...and I have been active in Democratic Party campaigns since I stuffed envelopes for John Kennedy in 1960.

Damn them all.

Disgruntled and more in Georgia of GA 1:40PM June 03, 2008

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Bonnie Erbe is a contributing editor at U.S. News & World Report and hosts PBS's weekly news analysis program, To the Contrary with Bonnie Erbe. She also writes a weekly syndicated newspaper column for Scripps Howard News Service.

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