Judd Gregg at Commerce Could Keep Democrats From Cooking 2010 Census Numbers

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40 years of practicing law as a Deposition specialist has given me ample training in answering questions with out answering anything. Bring on the high school drop outs from acorn!

Sidney B. of MA 1:11PM August 19, 2009

An important point overlooked here is that the 2000 Census allowed people for the first time to self-identify their race rather than have census-takers do it. Consequently, the number of "black" voters dropped considerably and naturally the Congressional Black Caucus and other black politicians blame this on something the census takers did or did not do. Apparently they want to maintain the racial "one drop" rule and reduce the number of mixed-race people (all but about 4% if you go by DNA of "African-Americans") who "pass" and don't call themselves "black" and so don't go along with the identity politics of the "black" block. The number of "Hispanics" grew, not only by natural population growth (having more children as well as immigration) but also because the "race" categories to choose from don't make any sense for those from nations where racial segregation did not occur along class lines as in the USA. (There are many other problems with the categories, such as refusal to recognize black Nubian Egyptians as "black" because they are from "North Africa.")

The best thing would be to base our decisions strictly on good science. The concept of "race" or "black" makes no sense today, as there are only about four genes that affect skin color out of a couple of hundred pertaining to national origin. And "black" does not equal "ex-slave" or someone discriminated against, as Obama shows, and in the opinion of the overwhelming majority of people who voted for Obama. As Shelby Steele has pointed out, it is the black upper-class who wish to maintain their position and who use the past discrimination against lower-class "blacks" to do so. Isn't it racist to think that the most significant thing about Obama is that he is "black" or for a person who also calls himself "black" to think that that is more important than other political issues and that he should be favored in some way because of it? So adherence to good science should demand that references to race be eliminated from the census. The Constitution refers to slavery not race--there were white slaves and indentured servants, and black slave-owners.

The second point about science is that it should not be used to lead to false conclusions, cooking the books. The statisticians at the Census Bureau agree that sampling does not lead to increased accuracy in the cases mentioned. It is true that different results may obtain from different statistical methods, but those methods should be chosen on the basis of arriving at the truth, not predetermined results, such as increasing the number of people who identify themselves as "black."

It is time now to demand that "black" politicians stop playing the race card. The census should not be politicized. Gregg and Republicans must insist that Obama make a firm public choice and repudiate racism and this blatant power grab by those who call themselves "black Democrats." Let's judge people by resutls not skin color and identity politics.

joe.shuren of FL 10:10AM February 14, 2009

Gregg's withdrawal in part over this White House's approach to the 2010 Census count only confirms what we all suspected...that Rahm Emanuel fully intends to politicize the process by removing the statistical count for the 2010 census from control of the Commerce department and taking over by putting it firmly in the hands of the White House. No wonder Gregg wanted no part of it. Our only hope rests in the possibility that Gregg will eventually speak out about what he knows. Rahm Emanuel is the scariest dude in American politics, and someone needs to stop him. He is a 21st century American Rasputin.

REradicalize of MD 8:04PM February 13, 2009

I guess the most distressing thing to me is that control of the country has just become a game, played between powerful interests, with the winner being the group who most successfully convinces the electorate that they are the ones who are who will do the best job of giving them what they want.

It's not so surprising that Obama is so quickly turning out to have been more of the same, as much as there were people out there who fell or it so easily.

P.T. Barnum looks smarter every day.

John Grever of DC 9:03AM February 08, 2009

There is no sampling in the plans for the 2010 census. It's just a straight count. Politicians decide how the data us used (redistricting, distribution of funds, etc.) but they should back off and let the census do its job to achieve the most complete, acurate census it can.

Dave of NC 12:14PM February 07, 2009

Dishonesty has been institutionalized by Bush? Another BDS sufferer. He lied about WMD's? Only because Clinton, Gore, Tenet etal told him they were there. And of course all the criminal convictions in his Cabinet- errr, no, that would be Clinton (and Obama's if there were justice in this world).

Yes those nasty racist, homophobic, misogynist Republicans who have the nerve to think that only Americans should be counted in the Census and not illegals - and ghosts who we 'think' might exist. It's obvious that Paul did not read the article where the professional statisticians stated sampling creates more mistakes than not.

But like all good leftists, why let the facts get in the way of the narrative.

swift boater of FL 8:46PM February 04, 2009

I applaud Obama's selection of Judd Gregg for Sec of Commerce, but there's no stopping the changing complexion of American demographics. The census is just a record of the progress of a diverse country emerging. The census like elections should be left to professionals and not made into a partisan issue. We all recognize its been Republican efforts to suppress the census count, like suppressing voters, attempting to manufacture an artificial reactionary view of America.

Gregg is the role model of honest GOP if not the exception, as Americans recognize that worrying about keeping Democrats honest is hardly what has bankrupted America. Dishonesty was been practically institutionalized under Bush, with parts of his administration seemed to be competing to who can stretch the truth the most.

Paul of WA 5:34PM February 03, 2009

Shouldn't we extrapolate and add to our census the population of Mexico and Central America? Given how supportive politicians like ex-Coyote-in-Chief Bush, John McCain, Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin, Obama, et. al., have been on illegal migration, the growing influence of the Hispanic vote, the peculiar and unique practice of jackpot baby citizenship, and looming comprehensive immigration "reform," they're all coming to America. Reagan's amnesty for three million brought in thirty million more, so we can expect comprehensive immigration "reform" to bring in another 300 million.

Luther of IL 11:39AM February 03, 2009

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Michael Barone is a senior writer for U.S.News & World Report and principal coauthor of The Almanac of American Politics. He has written for many publications—including the Economist and the New York Times.

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