No Comeback for Hillary

February 20, 2008 RSS Feed Print

In a recent post, I took a look at Hillary Clinton’s chances for a comeback in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination. Yesterday, the voters of Wisconsin made it plain they weren’t having any of it: They gave Barack Obama an impressive 58-41 percent victory over Clinton. So much for any Clinton best-case analysis. The Clinton campaign continues to look to the Ohio and Texas contests of March 4. But her numbers there seem to be eroding. CNN showed her lead in Texas disappearing, to a statistically insignificant 50-48 percent, while SurveyUSA put it at 50-45 percent, with all of the Clinton lead coming in south and west Texas.

Clinton has spent much of her campaign time in the Lower Rio Grande Valley and other heavily Latino parts of south Texas, presumably on the theory that turnout is highly volatile there. When Tony Sanchez, the head of the leading bank in Laredo, ran for governor in 2002, the primary turnout in Laredo’s Webb County tripled (or something like that). The problem is that there are only so many votes here even if turnout triples. The Lower Rio Grande Valley from Eagle Pass south to Brownsville has about 2 million people, about 80 to 90 percent Latino. But they’re only about 8 percent of the 23 million people of Texas.

As for Ohio, SurveyUSA, in the only poll in the field more than one day after Obama’s triple victory on Potomac primary day, has Clinton leading 52-43 percent. That’s better than she was doing in Wisconsin, where she was behind 4 or 5 points in public polls a week before the election, but worse than the double-digit lead she had in two recent Ohio polls.

The Wisconsin results are not encouraging for Ohio. As I was watching the county returns come in for Fox News, I noticed a pattern. The medium-size counties, with their industrial cities and small suburbs, were voting for Obama: Brown (Green Bay), Outgamie (Appleton), Manitowoc (Manitowoc), Rock (Janesville and Beloit), Kenosha (Kenosha). And not because of any large black community: All but one of these counties have populations 2 percent black or less except Kenosha (6 percent black). Yes, there is some reason to believe that white people in counties with visibly large black populations (most similar Ohio counties are 10 percent black or so) are more reluctant to vote for a black candidate because of pre-existing issues, controversies, or candidates polarizing local voters on racial lines than white voters in counties with virtually no black people (like these counties in Wisconsin).

Even so, the fact that Clinton lost all these counties I found fascinating, given the fact that in earlier primaries she has tended to carry Catholic and downscale voters. She didn’t in Wisconsin. She carried only small rural counties, and she lost plenty of these as well. On Fox News, Brit Hume asked me at about 10:40 p.m. EST whether Clinton could whittle down Obama’s popular vote margin. No, I said, I expected it to go up, because Clinton was only running even at best in the small counties, Obama was carrying all the medium-size industrial counties, and 60 percent of the precincts had yet to report in Milwaukee County and Dane County (Madison), which Obama was carrying by wide margins. That proved to be correct. Obama was leading by 7 points, as I recall, in the tabulated vote at that time; he ended up carrying the state by 17 points.

By the way, the Wisconsin secretary of state’s website does not seem to have the election results. Does anyone understand why this website—and those of some other election officials—are so unwilling to share with us what should be the most public of information? I’ve dealt over the years with these offices and have found some of them maddening. I can remember asking one clerk why state election results weren’t available. She replied they weren’t official yet. But, I replied, the governor who was elected has already taken office. I guess there’s something to say for the idea that these offices should be run by plodders rather than people prone to slapdash mistakes. But still. To the Wisconsin secretary of state: I’m not just interested in who was on the ballot February 19. I’d like to know how many votes each one got, in each county. Any possibility you’ll let me know anytime soon?

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I work in Austin and follow politics closely. At this point Obama has probably twice as many ads on tv here than does Clinton. Also, my wife and I both early voted yesterday and I was suprised to not see any presidential signs at the polling place. There were tons for local candidates, but none for Clinton or Obama.

James Crbatree of TX 10:41AM February 21, 2008

Thank you Martin Scott of OH and Kelly Pierce of CA. So eloquent and to the point.

Hillary the most accomplished woman in USA? Somehow I don't remember anybody in general saying that. Everybody says some politician couldn't name Obama's accomplishment (Obama can--if you guys really want to know why don't you ask him), but do people in general remember what Hillary accomplished? As First Lady? As Governor's Wife? As Senator? Gee, not anything memorable. Oh wait there is ONE memorable thing: Bill Clinton gave his wife as a first task the Health Care Reform package. Remember that one? She did sooooooooo poorly Bill never gave her another task. Oh yeah we remember that one.

anna of CA 11:40PM February 20, 2008

I think it’s a shame that people are so mesmerized and hypmatized by Obama’s rhetoric that they are willing to vote for a “Johnny Come Lately” Jr. Senator over an experienced Senator for President when this country is in such a mess. We literally have given this White House back to the Republicans in 2009, because John McCain’s and the media’s attacks are going to chew Obama up and spit him out.

If Obama becomes the Democratic Nominee, I’m staying home and not voting, I don’t trust this man to make good on his promises, I suggest that all true Hillary Supporters stay home as well if you truly don’t trust Obama to be your President, I’m not going to unite behind an experienced candidate in whom I don’t believe and trust to do a good job in the White House starting Day One of his Presidency.

I see this is still a “Man’s World” when it comes to Women trying to break that glass ceiling of becoming President. What I’m looking for in the general election is Obama is the Democratic Nominee most of the White Men switching back to the Republican Nominee John McCain, causing the election to be won again by the Conservative Party, because there are still people out there who also does not want an African American President as well, I believe that a lot of Republican’s and Independent’s were just voting for Obama to get rid of Hillary, therefore, giving John McCain a better opportunity to win the Presidency.

It’s seems like to me Obama’s Fad Movement Supporters fail for Karl Rove’s “Okey Doke” again. This was a brilliant strategy planned by the Republican Machine, and the Republican biased Cable Media, the Cable Media played a major role in helping to get Obama nominated by pumping him up and not fairly challenging and scrutinizing him on the issues from the start, right now, Obama can do no wrong, until he get’s the nomination; and then this same Republican Cable Media is going to let the hammer down on Obama and pounce him, causing him and his campaign to be politically destroyed. I’m not going to help Obama get out of this pickle by voting him; So “Let The Chips Fall Where They May.”

I truly hope Hillary’s Supporters follow my lead and stay home and not vote at all, or vote Idependent, let Obama’s Fad Movement Supporter’s get what they deserve and ask for, another four years of Republican Party Rule. So to repeat, I refuse to take part in uniting the Democratic Party by supporting an inexperienced Presidential Candidate, who really wouldn't know what to do on day one of his Presidency, he really don't have a clue on what he's doing. I have no faith and trust in Obama, the "Johnny Come Lately" 3year term Inspirational Motivational speaker Jr. Senator to get things done during his four year term in the Oval Office.

Darrell P of OH 11:28PM February 20, 2008

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