Obama's War on Religion Will Unite His GOP Opposition

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"....but there is no resolve or absolution in their lives." Very true, and do you know why? Because there's no need! And there is no emptiness either. Please get a life in the here and now so we can all get along in this world rather than delude ourselves about a life "hereafter."

PC Scipio of NV 10:13PM February 29, 2012

Good will always win over evil. The atheist-left will continue to preach their tune

....but there is no resolve or absolution in their lives.

I cannot imagine such emptyness!

1 who believes of MO 4:18PM February 29, 2012

The political-religious right wing once again plays the victim card. Mary Kate, you're a shill for dark age beliefs.

PC Scipio of NV 9:59AM February 29, 2012

I would say by the time this thing is all over (which I don't believe will be any time soon), Catholics everywhere will not acknowledge ANYTHING that comes out of the Obama Administration, or even the Democrat Party.

Catholic leaders are demanding an apology from Ms. Arianna Huffington, President and Editor in Chief, Huffington Post Media Group with regards to the latest diatribe coming from the pie hole of Larry Doyle, reporter of that media group.

An excerpt of that letter presents why:

When you started The Huffington Post in 2005, you opened your new Internet venture with a pledge, as quoted by Newsweek: “If you’re looking for the usual flame-throwing, name-calling, and simplistic attack dog rhetoric....don’t bother coming to The Huffington Post.” But Larry Doyle’s recent anti Catholic screed in the Huffington Post, The Jesus-Eating Cult of Rick Santorum, is bigoted and unacceptable, and a perfect

example of “flame-throwing, name-calling, and simplistic attack dog rhetoric.” His column should be taken off your site, and you should issue an apology for ever publishing such trash.

As we stated in February of 2011, (“AOL News Has Lost Its Mind with HuffPo Buyout”), AOL was foolish to buy The Huffington Post, presuming that it would be anything less than a “hate-filled, vicious, radically left-wing rag.” Doyle’s column is the latest in a long line of such content. In answer to online reader outrage over his distasteful column, Doyle responds

that it was all a joke. Intelligent readers and the millions of faithful Catholics who come into contact with this piece don’t buy such equivocating nonsense for a minute. Bigots

like Doyle think they can hurl the most contemptible insults towards Catholics ("Jesus eaters") and when called out, claim it was just a joke. What cowardice. What a double standard. If such an article was written concerning the Islamic or Jewish faith, the public outcry would be overwhelming, and rightly so. But anti-Catholicism is the last acceptable form of bigotry, and The Huffington Post is taking advantage of that bigotry for all it’s worth. The Obama administration’s recent mandate forcing religious institutions to provide insurance which violates their most sacred teachings is the outgrowth of a media, including The Huffington Post, complicit in the persecution of religion. Timothy Cardinal Dolan has called this mandate an unprecedented attack on conscience. You should be covering such attacks on religion in this country, not fomenting more persecution and bigotry. The double standard is clear for all to see. Media outlets like The Huffington Post

are ignoring the attack on the religion, but promoting bigots like Doyle who despise Catholics and others who practice traditional Judeo Christian faiths. That makes you complicit in bigotry.

....reminds me of the lyrics of a song: "I'm digging a hole, and I can't get out"!

Rachel R. of WA 5:05AM February 29, 2012

Religion Aside...

It's not the business of government to demand that private business provide anything to their employees - bananas, bibles or birth control.

R.L. Schaefer of CA 7:14PM February 25, 2012

What a joke.

"Making a moral wrong free of cost doesn't make it a moral right."

It also doesn't make it a moral wrong in the first place, especially for those employee's of faith-based organizations that don't share the faith of their organization, which is commn in schools, hospital's, etc. It's also not a moral wrong belonging to any church if someone they employ "sins" with the benefits they are given in exchange for their work. It's not the monk's sin when he brews beer that people debauch themselves with. But keep trying to work up salivating culture-war one-issue voters with this fallacious nonsense.

aaron of IA 11:38AM February 23, 2012

LOL. You're on to me Junior! I might as well live in a cave. I don't own a cell phone, a computer (I use my friend's computer when she lets me) have a regular t.v. and would drive a horse and buggy to work if I could. At least I know what LOL and BTW means. Have a good night Junior. Be safe.

Bing of AL 8:57PM February 22, 2012

Bing:

"He brought up Islam around the globe. I responded to that, you responded to me.."

Sorry, but you were the one who mentioned international Muslims first:

" What about the Pubs war on religion? Specifically, Islam"

""but the majority of Muslims on the globe are just like you. They just want to live their lives."

Note the absence of the qualifier "American" in your first quote from your very first post, and the specifier in the second. Sorry, try again.

"Bottom line, Supreme Court says there is a separation between church and state. Perhaps decided by a "liberal" court, but no more activist than the conservative court we have now. If the Pubs believe the Feds cannot mandate churches to provide contraceptive coverage, does that not mean they do believe in separation of church and state?"

Yes, they do indeed believe in a separation of church and state - but that is NOT what is stated in Article 1 of the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution. It states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,..........."

The argument that the conservatives (and surprisingly, quite a few commentators whom would label themselves Liberal) make is that the Obama mandate tramples on "the free exercise thereof" by the Catholic Church since it forces them to offer insurance policies that HAVE to contain a provision that Rome disagrees with vehemently. Obama's "compromise" is nothing of the such - the mandate is still there.

Whether or not some large percentage of Catholics actually use contraceptives already is irrelevant - that is something that they as individuals have made a choice about, and has nothing to do with what the religion as an institution preaches.

"I might add there are many types of Muslims, just like there are many types of Christians. Mormonism is a Christian based religion, but seems to be a stickler for the Christian right."

Correct, and in all religions are good practitioners, as well as whackos - these are human beings, after all, with all their warts.

What cannot be disputed, however, is that ONLY Islam and, most importantly, its leaders, constantly and loudly preach that infadels shall be killed (the many exerpts from the Koran posted earlier make it rather hard to argue otherwise), and ONLY Islam has massive uprisings worldwide calling for assassinations and killings when there is a perceived "insult" to Islam or Mohammed. Yes, there are many far right "christians" to whom "tolerance" of other religions and thought processes seems to be foreign, but it is wildly off-base to claim any sort of equivalency.

As far as Obama's "war on religion", I wouldn't really call it that as much as it exposes his contempt and willingness to do as he pleases "for our own good".

"MSM? I don't know what that is."

Have you been living in a cave somewhere? Main Stream Media - ie - NY Times, LA Times, MSNBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, etc, etc, - all blatant shills for the Left.

junior of DC 8:28PM February 22, 2012

Sorry Junior, I got you mixed up with Enzo. He brought up Islam around the globe. I responded to that, you responded to me....and it went on from there. Although, I admit I am a great digresser.

Bottom line, Supreme Court says there is a separation between chuch and state. Perhaps decided by a "liberal" court, but no more activist than the conservative court we have now. If the Pubs believe the Feds cannot mandate churches to provide contraceptive coverage, does that not mean they do believe in separation of church and state?

I'm not in the habit of quoting t.v., but perhaps Pub. Rep. Issa put it best with his hearing on: "Lines Crossed: Separation of Church and State. Has the Obama Administration Trampled on Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Conscience?"

Actually, I'm not a slob, just ignorant. I also suffer from chronic insomnia and yes, that means I do get confused from time to time. Am currently in a really bad cycle, so be patient. Keep educating me! I love these debates, I learn a lot.

I might add there are many types of Muslims, just like there are many types of Christians. Mormonism is a Christian based religion, but seems to be a stickler for the Christian right.

BTW-I consider myself an independent as well, but I'm registered Democrat because I believe it's important to be able to vote in primaries and caucuses, which sadly, many people don't do. I try to vote as often as I can! Voted for Reagan the first time, but not the second. I'll vote for a moderate Pub over a virulent lefty any day.

Keep 'em coming Junior. Am sure we'll debate some other stuff down the road. Looking forward to it.

MSM? I don't know what that is.

Bing of AL 7:18PM February 22, 2012

Bing:

You stated:

"You want to keep bringing in the globe, I'm talking about AMERCICAN Muslims. "

""I think I can argue the majority of Muslims are peaceful. Deomcratic Indonesia has the largest Muslim population in the world and they have their nut cases, but by and large, they are peaceful. "

In spite of your protests, it was you who first brought up the worlds population of Muslims - I only responded to your own assertions. if you wish to make a statement about American Muslims, try stating it that way to begin with.

Yes, the majority of American Muslims are peaceful, at least on the surface. However, way too many still practice Sharia law in their communities, won't let their sons or daughters marry out of the faith (and many times the nationality), and contribut untold $$ to so-called "charities" that are actually fronts for jihadist organizations. You need to sometime sit down and talk with members of the Christian Arab community to get an education about how the Muslim community actually acts in private (I have aquaintences who filled me in long ago, so I am no longer naive about at least the Arabic Muslim world).

You said:

" Dems believe in separation of church and state and I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court does as well (see court decisions vs seven day adventists) Thought the Pubs believed it too with this recent Catholic church debacle. Guess I was wrong about that, but seems like all the conservative talking heads I was listening to were using that as their argument, which I found really odd."

And exactly what was being said by the conservative talking heads that led you to believe that that were calling for the State to get involved in religion? Assertions by you or others with no quotes are meaningless blather.

Actually, it has been the left talking heads that have tried to make the contraceptive argument be ANYTHING but about separation of church and state - all of the conservative writers and commentators that I've heard have at least tried to keep it as a government intrusion into the religious affairs -though not argued very well by too many, apparently, since the MSM has constantly been able to drown them out rather effectively (might have something more to do with the shear numbers of loud lefties more than with the validity of their arguments, however).

You stated:

" You, apparently, like most Pubs I know, are an expert in everything. I'm just an ignorant slob."

Wrong on the first (I'm an independent) and from what we can conclude from you posts, correct on the second.

junior of DC 5:14PM February 22, 2012

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