Can Democrats Trust Obama in the Debt Ceiling Negotiations?

The White House, Boehner deny a secret deal is close

July 22, 2011 RSS Feed Print

Democratic tempers on Capitol Hill flared yesterday after reports that President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner had come up with a secret deal that would cut $3 trillion in spending in exchange for a commitment to increase revenue through tax reform over the next year. Democrats like Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid were frustrated at being excluded from the negotiations. According to The Hill, during a Thursday meeting with Jack Lew, the White House budget director, Reid demanded: “I’m the Senate majority leader; why don’t I know about this deal?” [See editorial cartoons about the Democrats.]

Lew denied that a deal existed, but, according the The Hill, said the president and the speaker must be able to talk on their own if they are going to get anything done. White House spokesman Jay Carney also denied a deal was close at his Thursday press briefing. Boehner joined the chorus, speaking on conservative Rush Limbaugh’s radio show: “There is no deal; no deal publicly, no deal privately. There is absolutely no deal,” he said, emphasizing his support for the GOP’s “Cut, Cap, and Balance” legislation.

Republicans have long called for the president to take a direct hand in the negotiations, but pundits are speculating that Democrats may not fully trust Obama to stick to his guns without their input. “The view of the White House today is that the Democrats in Congress can be bypassed at the key moment of secret talks with Republicans, and then informed of the results,” writes The Hill columnist Brent Budowsky. “The president is being advised by some to sell us out on matters at the heart of what Democrats believe in.” [Check out political cartoons about the GOP.]

Democrats still seemed frustrated by the secret Obama-Boehner talks Friday morning, and the threat is real that they may not agree to a deal that doesn’t reflect their priorities. “There are talks going on between President Obama and Speaker Boehner. I wish them well,” Reid said on the Senate floor Friday morning. “I say to both the president and the speaker here on the Senate floor—representing my Democrats and, I'm confident, many Republicans—be very careful, show a lot of caution as this negotiation goes forward, because any arrangement must be fair to all America, not just the wealthy.” [See photos of the Obamas behind the scenes.]

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Threats, threats, threats. Thats all you democrats can do is lie and threaten. Well, we republicans don't give a damn anymore. You want to put down Boehner but not the OBASTARD. He is your problem. Not anyone else.Reid wonders why he is not allowed to meet with Obastard and Boehner, well he just can't play golf as good as them.If they wanted to settle this problem, just have a 39% nation wide sales tax. Get rid of all other taxes. The states would take their little persontage and the government gets the rest. Every one would pay taxes, even the illegals.the prostitutes, the welfare,just everyone,and we would have no need for the IRS.You would have a overthrow of money that we would be out of dept in less then 1 year.The rich would pay more because they don't shop at walmart or by cheap cars.

gaetano of VT 10:20AM July 29, 2011

Of course Democrats are behind President Obama.

Of course Bill h isn't a democrat and its getting hard to believe he's even an American

Its not Obama's fault that Republicans want to crash our economy and scrape our Constitution to implement supermajority rule (fascist minority rule in essense).

Bill, seriously you regularly extoll killing Medicare and Social Security here and point out websites that are completely dedicated to rolling back the New Deal and the Great Society. Come on, who is the regular liar here at this website. Your constant hateful insults and complete nonsense speaks for itself, as well as your cut-and-paste bs that you parade out at least once a week, without every showing any brain function behind parroting dishonest right wingnut jargon. Please its too transparent that you insult anyone who doesn't kowtow to the GOP talking points while its clear that the GOP is a dishonest player in trying to govern this country in the best interests of the people. You continually echo the special interest talking points that work against most Americans and have no more conscience than any other paid troll. You are not fooling anyone or persuading anyone, but it must pay well to be such a

well you showed us already plenty of times

Ray of MO 7:14PM July 26, 2011

You write "Don't stand for these teapublicans trying to kill Medicare and Social Security by holding the country hostage over benefits American have paid into and the Republicans want to steal to give away to billionaires. " No we are trying to save, barry trying to destroy:

"Obama said regarding the Ryan budget plan, “No I don’t think it is particularly courageous. Because…nothing is easier than solving a problem on the backs of people who are poor or people who are powerless or don’t have a lobbyist or don’t have clout.”

"How does obamacare cut cost, but help "people who are poor or people who are powerless or don’t have a lobbyist or don’t have clout.”

"cuts in payments to doctors and hospitals under Medicare as provided in current law due to Obamacare and President Obama’s Medicare reimbursement policies is $15 trillion!"

"These Medicare cuts were the foundation for CBO finding that Obamacare would actually reduce the deficit, despite adopting or expanding three entitlement programs.

"Medicare’s Chief Actuary reports that even before these cuts already two-thirds of hospitals were losing money on Medicare patients."

"The unworkable, draconian effect of these Medicare cuts is why the U.S. Government Accountability Office issued a disclaimer..."

Unlike Ryan’s careful Medicare reforms, these draconian, unworkable, Obamacare cuts to Medicare apply to seniors already retired today. Ryan exempts from any change all seniors retired today and everyone over age 55. On these grounds alone, Ryan’s Medicare is better for today’s seniors than Medicare under Obamacare.

That will involve an additional $500 billion in Medicare cuts for today’s seniors by 2023, “and an additional one trillion dollars in the decade after that,” in Obama’s own words.

"Obama proposed to give even more power to the unelected, unaccountable, Washington bureaucrats on his Commission to cut Medicare further, by undemocratic automatic sequester that bypasses Congress entirely."

"Even President Obama was forced to admit before the Facebook audience that the Ryan Medicare plan “will control costs, except if you get sick and the policy that you bought doesn’t cover what you’ve got….If you’re somebody who’s older and has a pre-existing condition, insurance companies won’t take you.” But that’s not how the private insurance companies under Medicare Advantage work. Nor is that true of the private Medigap plans, whose sellers include AARP, central players in Obama’s own political machine."

http://blogs.forbes.com/peterferrara/2011/04/28/paul-ryan-medicare-better-than-obamas/

http://www.912superseniors.org/2011/05/why-paul-ryans-medicare-is-so-much-better-than-obamas/

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With such lies, could not finish reading your comment...

Bill Hedges of MO 11:05PM July 25, 2011

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