Baseball’s Steroids Debate Isn’t About Bonds or A-Rod, It’s About Right and Wrong

the hall of fame is simply that- a hall of fame... the hall represents all that baseball is. ALL that baseball is... Mr. Ecko had a great idea in his ball vote and obviously 10,000,000 other people thought so too. and he did what should be done with all eligible players- let em vote. if they get in then someone in the voting group was willing to decide for themselves what stats were valid and what stats were obviously 'juiced'.

i really agree with slide-step in the concept of telling all the truths... i am a tigers fan until i die and bleed out blue and orange, and regardless of how much i wish there was a way to watch the old timers, i KNOW that Ty Cobb was as big an ahole as you could be. the pictures that do exist are worth all the words baseball has and that should be remembered also.

i remember being awed at how hard barry and mark and sammy could hit the ball but even more impressive were Nolan Ryan, Alan Trammell to Sweet Lou Whitaker and Kirk Gibson's Home Run to Win...

the vote should still go on and the eligible players can take there chances. you never know who might not actually get in based solely on the voters...

D Crambell of CO 6:03PM August 20, 2009

I actually believe "W" used that as a diversion to a failing economy, and fighting 2 wars... 1 unjustifiably at best. Why not ask your group of former friends to create a diversion to hide your failures? Politics is everywhere.

The true concern is this... if you start breaking down Cooperstown into era's it's going to

lose it's meaning. There would be many era's, not just the steroid....

1.The go to work, then go play ball era

2.The so drunk we fall running to our position era

3.The negro hall of fame could just be thrown in and there could be the

"before and after Jackie Robinson era.

....anyhow, ya get my point. Most of the guys that line the walls of that wonderland

for baseball fans were not very good people.

Out of all the old timers, there are only a few who were known to be squeaky clean.

Ty Cobb was a ruthless cheating mean s.o.b. from the books I have read, Mickey Mantle as we all know was a drunk, and it killed him eventually, Babe Ruth was a womanizing drunk.

Any player from the 80's at least saw a handful of pills or a vile of coke in the dugout bathroom....another era. I was born and raised in St.Louis and there is a story about Babe Ruth doing every woman in a cat house in one night while they were in town...sounds like he may need a different hall of fame. :)

Barry would have done close to what he did anyway... along with McGuire and a few others.

McGuire hit 49 homers his rookie season and he looks 15...common.It's hand eye coordination and mechanics, which steroids does not, and never will help improve. So?? "shrug" PLEASE LET THE HALL BE !!!!

If you tell one story you have to tell them all, let our dreams live.

slide-step of DE 10:22PM July 29, 2009