The Secret History of the National Security Agency

Intelligence historian Matthew Aid talks to U.S. News about his new book

June 19, 2009 RSS Feed Print
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You write about other periods of "blackout."

The NSA didn't break any high-level Soviet codes for a period of 30 years. They broke Soviet codes very well between 1945 and 1948 before a mole inside the U.S. military exposed NSA capabilities. One Friday, the Soviets switched to an unbreakable cipher system, and all interception went black. Until 1978, not a single high-level Russian code was broken. NSA spent several billion dollars on it and got nowhere. The NSA finally cracked the Soviet codes again by the late 1970s. Warning of the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 was a great victory for U.S. signals intelligence during a brief window when we could both intercept and decode Soviet traffic. We lost all that access when two more Soviet moles exposed U.S. successes.

Do other countries have their own NSA?

Most nations do. The Soviets had a much larger signals intelligence operation than the U.S. The Soviets were good against other smaller NATO countries but less effective against the U.S. People always blame the press for exposing secrets, but spies inside the government are far more dangerous. In fact, the Soviets generally knew exactly where all our ballistic missile subs were located for many years, thanks to broken naval codes. It actually gave Moscow a sense of security that we were not going to launch a surprise attack.

Has it all been worth it?

I know a dozen senior officials who ask the same question. NSA has produced exceptional material in many instances. And instances of NSA success remain classified. But it's not all-seeing or all-hearing, and it has a major cost. Over all, it's an essential tool, because it produces more and better intelligence than the CIA or anyone else in the intelligence community, except for satellites.

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One of the burdens of your work is that mistakes often get exposed, but successes have to stay uner wraps. I hope that this book brings a bit of public appreciation of the secretive work that you folks (along with the helpers in the Navy, Army and Air Force)have done.

The relationship between sigint (signal intelligence) and humint (human intelligence) is complementary, not competitive, so carry on and keep us safe.

Jim Osburn of IL 11:15PM June 28, 2009

The interview appears to reveal nothing not previously reported by Bamford. The comment " . . . they [NSA] don't want to leave any evidence that they've been snooping at all. All the NSA wants to do is listen. There's a never-ending battle between the listeners and the disrupters in the wake of 9/11. . . ." is interesting, but perhaps it should not be.

In effect, what's new, Mr. Kingsford?

Eisenbahn Wilhelm of MT 11:51PM June 24, 2009

When ever a strong statement is made, and with all knowing certainty, the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Quote: "Until 1978, not a single high-level Russian code was broken". Really? Frankly, the code that was intercepted in Maryland by NSAA Green Beret cryptologist (1967) would certainly fall into the "high-level" code arena. The code in question, pertained to the displeasure Breshnev felt towards the dispatching of Che to Bolivia, by Castro. (CIA has claimed credit for this code break, but I would beg to differ). The breaking of this code directly led to the transfer of two specially trained Green Beret A teams to Bolivia from Panama, to work directly with the Bolivian Army in the capture of Che Guevra. Secondly,July 2, 1967 a newly minted SR-71 veered into Mexican air space. Mexico promptly contacted Moscow,thinking it was a russian aircraft. Russia responded in code and the NSAA listened in and decoded. Again, this event would certainly fit into the high-level arena.

(NSAA, National Security Agency-Army)

Matthew of CA 2:28AM June 23, 2009

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