With Gambling, Personal Freedom Is Always the Best Bet, Says Barney Frank

There are many vices in the U.S. Those that hurt others must be stopped. Online gaming need not be

June 1, 2009 RSS Feed Print
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By Barney Frank
Massachusetts Democrat and chairman of the House Financial Services Committee

There is one major reason that leads me to oppose the ban on Internet gambling: It is an activity that adult Americans enjoy and that does no conceivable harm to anybody else.

There are people who believe that it is appropriate to use the law to impose on others personal, religious, or moral tenets, whether or not they deal with behavior that impinges on others. Obviously, society has an obligation to enforce those aspects of morality that protect people from others. Murder, robbery, fraud, and arson, for example, should be harshly prosecuted. But personal behavior that harms no one ought to be within the sphere of personal autonomy.

Some antigambling advocates inaccurately assert that if we do not outlaw gambling, we are encouraging it. The notion that human activity should be divided between those things that are illegal and those things that the government should be considered to be encouraging is a dire threat to liberty. The vast majority of human activities should be neither encouraged nor outlawed by the government but rather be left entirely to the choice of free individuals.

Several other negative arguments exist. The least serious comes from the professional sports leagues, which express their horror that if Internet gambling were allowed, people might actually bet on sports games. The bill I proposed prohibits betting on sports through the Internet, but the notion that the people who run professional sports leagues are shocked by the idea that people might actually bet on their games has to rank as one of the least credible in human history. Indeed, one of the major shortcomings of the current law is precisely that it prohibits human behavior that in fact harms no one. Thus, it winds up doing more to discredit the law than to discourage the activity.

This also applies to one of the worst arguments I ever heard made by one of the best members of Congress with whom I have served. He said on the floor of the House when this bill was first voted on that it was legitimate to ban Internet gambling because it added nothing to the gross domestic product. The notion that individual choices and personal freedom have to be justified on the grounds that they contribute to the gross domestic product is of course a serious threat to individual liberty.

More serious is the argument that online gambling could lead to underage people getting themselves into trouble financially. Fortunately, we do have ways of requiring that activities accessible through the Internet have an enforceable age limit. If we were to prohibit from the Internet anything that people under a certain age should not do and could abuse, the Internet would be a very boring place. If we were to ban every activity that is suitable only for adults because of the possibility that some underage people might access these activities, we would have substantially diminished our freedom as adults.

Moreover, Congress is now reforming credit card practices in measures meant to severely restrict credit cards being sent to college students and further reduce the likelihood of credit card debt for people under 18.

(Even if Internet gambling is not allowed, young people with unrestricted access to credit cards will very often find ways to get themselves into a lot of trouble.)

There is also the argument that adults can become addicts. The principle here is the same as with regard to young people: To ban an activity in which the great majority of adults are able to engage responsibly because a small percentage will abuse it is to diminish freedom. Those who are addicted are the ones most likely to engage in the activity whether or not it is illegal, so the legal prohibition generally prevents more legitimate use of any activity than the abuse of it.

Finally, we were told by the Bush administration that online gambling was a problem because it could lead to drug-money laundering and smuggling for terrorists. There is, of course, virtually no evidence of this. The Bush administration owed its religious conservative base opposition to gambling, and it is, naturally, a problem for some conservatives who profess to be critical of the "nanny state" to justify this extreme example of nannyism. So we got this argument thrust at us about drug smuggling and terrorism. In fact, that same argument could apply to virtually anything done on the Internet because you could use any legitimate activity for such a cover: There have been cases of which I am aware of organized crime opening up bricks-and-mortar cleaning establishments solely for that purpose, and in one case, I remember the annoyance of those who were running the place at the fact that potential customers actually were bringing in dirty clothes and asking that they be cleaned.

We have regulations in the legislation that can be enforced, as well as many others that require that any group taking Internet bets must be a legitimate organization and account for all of its funding in ways that will prevent any sort of drug activity or terrorist conduct.

Finally, there are two blatant contradictions in the position of those conservatives who push to outlaw Internet gambling. First, it is the most glaring example we have of interfering with freedom on the Internet. Second, to those who claim to be unhappy with the intrusiveness of the "nanny state," there is no stronger case than for a nanny government insisting we be "better" people by reducing our freedom.

On this issue, there is a very clear case for the citizen's right to be left alone.

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Mr. Bauney Fwank* is an Idiot to believe Internet Gaming should be legalized...

The only winners would be the gaming site owners, and the losers would be the Americans who are addicted gamblers already forking over good money after bad to not only Las Vegas, Reno, and Atlantic City Casino's with their LEGALIZED theft, but also the Indian Gaming Casinos that are ripping off the LOCAL populations where they operate...

Bawney Fwank, along with Chris Dodd are the same individuals who are MOST RESPONSIBLE for Fannie May and Feddie Mac and their irresponsible lending practices that have brought our economy to the BRINK of collapse - why in the world should ANYONE trust this MORON'S judgment on anything?

**With all the money he makes - why doesn't he have teeth?

Vince of NV 12:54AM June 30, 2009

I say bravo and hope that the rest of the Congress and Senate think the same way. Poker is definitely a game of skill and is considered as such by the IRS according to the tax code. Call your Congress people and Senators and urge for passage.

Larry Maske

Poker Players Alliance Member

Larry M of MD 5:07PM June 05, 2009

although i agree with you on gambling that the majority of gambling is stupid and will most likely result in you losing money. but then again i guess thats your choice if you want to lose money there are many ways to do it gamblings one of them. however unfortunately games of skill have been included in the ban. ie: non house games which include poker. there are most definately great tournament poker players whos ability to win poker tournaments is astounding completely nullifying the argument that poker is about luck. as a matter of fact just recently at the world series of poker a man succeeded in winning the same 800-900 person tournament 2 years in a row and took 2nd in the same event the year before. 3 YEARS IN A ROW beating 800-900 people. the man has major poker skills NOT major poker luck.

i guess im kind of against gambling as i found out through my sister that my mother had a slot machine gambling problem in her later years, apparently over the last few years before she got sick she had probably lost about 50k. i found out after she had passed and never actually even knew that she went to the casinos so much, i went with her once and noticed that she enjoyed it but had no idea how much. but anyway according to the ogic of the anti internet gaming law brick and mortar casinos should be shut down too bc they support problem gamblers. i believe legitimate AMERICAN gambling sites should be able to restrict problem gamblers a lot easier than brick and mortar casinos, and for that matter who here believes noone under 21 has ever been able to gamble at a casino without getting carded? or for that matter showing a fake id (which would never get past security scrutiny at online casinos).

im gonna let everyone in on a big secret, america is going to have online gambling legal, just as soon as harrahs and the other greedy fat cats who lobbied millions of dollars into certain crooked politicians pockets get the format ready. its big business using the american legal system to make sure theyre the one who get the bigget piece of the pie. to them why comete on a level playing field with the other sites when they can have the us govorment strongarm them and whoever else that doesnt give unnamed congressmen and senators briefcases filled with unmarked bills.

finally back to poker. this is absolutely and undisputedly a game of skill and should be exempted from the law to begin with.

slim brunson of CA 11:58AM June 04, 2009

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