Israel Ponders Ground Invasion of Gaza After Days of Airstrikes on Hamas Targets

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You didn't understand absolutely any word I've said, Sorry.

First of all, "Rotem by labelling me a 'Arab lady' just proves my point." I didn't call you an Arab lady, Read again, I called the women on the link that I've put here "An Arab lady", 'Cause she is.

Second, I'm not angry at you at all and I'm not angry at any person who has different opinions then mine, I've never said that! I'm angry when people are not telling the truth ( like Ahmed did). The things that I wrote on my previous comment were directed to all of the readers.

Anyway, I would be glad to understand from you, what do think about this situation(IN Gaza)?

Rotem 9:50AM January 06, 2009

You didn't understand absolutely any word I've said, Sorry.

First of all, "Rotem by labelling me a 'Arab lady' just proves my point." I didn't call you an Arab lady, Read again, I called the women on the link that I've put here "An Arab lady", 'Cause she is.

Second, I'm not angry at you at all and I'm not angry at any person who has different opinions then mine, I've never said that! I'm angry when people are not telling the truth ( like Ahmed did). The things that I wrote on my previous comment were directed to all of the readers.

Anyway, I would be glad to understand from you, what do think about this situation(IN Gaza)?

Rotem 9:50AM January 06, 2009

Rotem by labelling me a 'Arab lady' just proves my point. Don't preach, "U don't even know me" and then do exactly what you have asked others not to. It shows up the inconsistency of your argument.

And the reference to the 18 year old in Israel was only because she mentioned this. And your very incorrect in saying that I concluded that "18 year olds in my country know less then yours?" - how did you get this? My point was that there are many victims in this conflict - of all ages, ethnicities, religions and geographic location ect. You paranoia is starting to show.

I understant you have to fight for your country because as a nation you are surrounded by angry states. I guess the feeling is if you give an inch they will take a mile and eventually you will have no homeland... well we all want a home to go to, call our own and create a safe environment for our families - perhaps you can then emphasise with the palestinians - questionable by the sounds of your rhetoric

And BTW just because people take a viewpoint that you don't agree with doesn't necessarily mean they are taking sides. People are capable of coming to a non biased conclusion by weighing up both sides of the coin and taking all things into consideration....

8:34AM January 06, 2009

It was sent like this by mistake.

Dr. Shade of NC - Oops.. I know how to write "history", this was a mistake. As for "been"-"being" , Thanks for the lesson :)

And again, I wanna thank you for understanding us! And thank you for helping my country and showing truthfulness to fulfil my request.

Have a nice day!

Rotem 10:30PM January 05, 2009

It was sent like this by mistake.

Dr. Shade of NC - Oops.. I know how to write "history", this was a mistake. As for "been"-"being" , Thanks for the lesson :)

And again, I wanna thank you for understanding us! And thank you for helping my country and showing truthfulness to fulfil my request.

Have a nice day!

Rotem 10:30PM January 05, 2009

Somebody of XX,

I didn't attack Ahmed, and if it's seems like that, I'm sorry.

I'm just so furious when I see people who are teeling incorrect things about us, this is why you are mistaken.

First,you said:"His main point, or request, was that people take a look at the broader picture before making their judgements - and i think we could all learn from this."

Well,this is exactly what I've said, but it seems to me like you want to listen just to the other side's requests.

Second, "We are much closer to the conflict that you and the 18 year from Israel realise. We know whats going on - there many victims here."

Who are "we"? Where r you from? And how did you come to the conclusion that 18 year olds in my country know less then yours? What? Are we all 18 year olds from Israel are one entity with the same knowledge and reflections? U don't even know me.

"for every link you gave there a likely 10 others for the palestinians... that have suffered from years and years of war. Why??? Its a very good question. "

Thanks, you made my point! This is just what I've said! The palestinians propaganda power, or however you call it, is much much stronger them ours.

And let me tell you another thing-Why do you think this fighting on the last few days is happening?

This is why- for 8 years! 8!! this war exists. Where were you all those who fight for innocent people's life when the palestinian and arab terrorists killed many of us at clubs, restaurants, coffee shops, buses, on the street, on our houses etc.?? Where were you when we were suffering from paranoias just because we needed to go to school by bus or just go out of our houses??? Where were you when for years SDEROT's civilians couldn't (and still can't) live a normal life because the hamas was constantly attacking them with rockets??

For all those years our government didn't do anything just because we care so much about the innocent palestinians lives, We know that the HAMAS uses them as it's human shields, and we didn't want to hurt them, So now, after we didn't had a choise, In order to protect ourselves, we executed a very planned and considered operation which his goal is to bring down the Hamas and avoid hurting innocent people's life in there not in intent.

Don't go and defend one side just because more people in there are getting killed, The only reason you see that not many of us are getting killed now is because we have shalters and a government and defence forces which are standing on our side and supporting us, NOT like the Palestinians, Their leaders (HAMAS) are causing their deaths instead of protecting them.

Why do you think that they live like that? The Hamas leaders get a lot of money from the arab world, but instead of using this money in order to help those poor people, they use it to buy weapon in order to kill us.

Once Golda Meir, Formerly PM of Israel, said:"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."

of 10:08PM January 05, 2009

(Whatever) of XX, from what I assume from your comment is that you are in Gaza. That is very interesting. Now then, to business please. You have accused Dryfire and me of being against the general idea Ms. Rotem says she believes is Israel's point of view in this conflict. How so? Israel wants to punish Hamas for its terrorist against her people the Israelis, so does we (Dryfire and me). Suicide bombers in public streets and random missiles are weapons of terrorists since they can kill more civillians than military personel. The purpose of terrorists is to cause fear in the hearts of innocent people and Hamas has done that. Israel should be careful not to harm civilians, but then again it is hard to fight the enemy who shamefully hides behind women and children.

As for being mascots, Ms. Rotem is just pleased that someone agrees with her and is trying to form an alliance with those who have the same beliefs. So why why don't you get off her back?

I have read Ahmed's comment a couple of times, and I agree that it is deceitful. Israel does not go into Gaza everyday massacring people. If they were, I probably have to side with you, but such is not the case.

Now, you claim to be from the other side as a Palestinian from Gaza. And you claim that Ahmed is telling the truth, including the daily "massacres". Well sir/ma'am, maybe you need to find more honest company that also discredits your testimony more than what I or Dryfire do to Ms. Rotem's. Please, understand that I do not want more civillians killed. But Hamas has got to take a chill pill before Israel shoves it down their throat. As for having more videos of hurt Palestinis, well what do expect when a sovereign comes in to punish a terrorist groups who hides among civillians? Also, I hope you know that some of those videos are probably used for Hamas propaganda.

P.S.: To Ms. Rotem, now is the time to stay strong in your beliefs. I will try to review some of the sites you have mentioned tonight and spread them to my friends and to the churches here. Also, try not to use curse words. I know you're frustrated, but if anything you are turning off the people you want on your side. By the way, I know you have trouble with English. It is spelled "history", not "hestory". It is spelled "being, not "been". I am "being" good. I have "been" gone for awhile.

Dr. Shade of NC 5:54PM January 05, 2009

Dear Rotem,

Your thanks to Dr Shade and co does your argument no favours at all. The blatant views and attitude that they have shown towards the conflict is contrary to what your purport Israel's general standpoint to be - what was it "humane"?. So I don't think you should use them as your cute fluffy mascot in this case.

I also think your attitute or rather personal attack on Ahmed is misplaced. From what I read his tone was sincere and not deceitful, which is what you imply. His main point, or request, was that people take a look at the broader picture before making their judgements - and i think we could all learn from this.

At the same time are you really denying his claims to be untrue - really? I can speak for myself and a couple of the other readers that have contributed to this conversation - we are much closer to the conflict that you and the 18 year from Israel realise. We know whats going on - there many victims here.

for every link you gave there a likely 10 others for the palestinians, lebanese, jordanians, syrians (shall I go on?) that have suffered from years and years of war. Why??? Its a very good question.

3:32PM January 05, 2009

I cannot believe how racist some of you people are.

White-trash is alive and well here in America, apparantly.

If arabs are killed, you cheer. If any whites are killed, you want to burn witches. Will your hatred never end?

of TX 9:38AM January 05, 2009

I wanna thank you and Dr.Shade for protecting my country's name.

We want to be heard too, but my country dosen't put much focus on the thing called HASBARA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasbara) as opposed to the Palestinians who put their main focus about it , about their propaganda, That's why people often inclined to understand the Palestinian side, But can't even think about listening to ours (like Sam, for example).

If you could only deliver what I'm saying and what you think about the Israeli side of the story to your acquaintances, Including the fact that the Hamas is causing all the troubles for both sides, it could realy help.

There are a lot of videos, articles and other information on the internet that you can learn from. Don't be narrow-minded, there are tow sides to every coin.

Maybe tomorrow this fighting will all be over, and you will go on with your lives, but we'll continue to live like this everyday. It is very hurtful to suffer and at the same time to be criticised like this for nothing.

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgz9OosLT8g

Rotem 9:37AM January 05, 2009

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