Accurately Counting Stimulus Jobs Proving Tough

Obama promised the $787 billion stimulus package would create or save 3.5 million jobs

July 15, 2009 RSS Feed Print

As Americans become more skeptical of the administration's promise that the stimulus package will create or save 3.5 million jobs, there's an added frustration: Even if the $787 billion act is successful in creating work, Americans may never know.

That's because counting the jobs involves estimating what would have happened without legislation, a slippery task even if the economy weren't so volatile. "We will probably have a better sense two years down the road, after a number of careful studies," says Steven Davis, a University of Chicago economics professor. "But even then, there will be lots of arguments." The administration says that 150,000 jobs were created in the first hundred days after the stimulus was passed. But that figure comes from the same economic formula that predicted how many jobs the stimulus would create overall, not from reporting on the ground.

So far, two measures are being used, economic modeling and direct reporting. The first, a formula from the president's Council of Economic Advisers, relies on the well-established idea that a certain amount of spending generates a given number of jobs. It's particularly useful since it accounts for ripple effects that direct reporting doesn't, like how a construction worker buying a sandwich on the job supports the local eatery and lets it hire more people. But like many economic estimates, it's inexact.

The other yardstick is direct reporting, in which agencies tell the government how many people they hired with stimulus funds. But that can also get murky. The Office of Management and Budget recently released guidance on such an assessment to stimulus funding recipients. Experts say that although it clarified how recipients are supposed to report jobs and other data, it doesn't make an exact count likelier. "The fear was that [job reporting] would not capture the full extent of jobs created or retained," says Gary Bass, director of the watchdog group OMB Watch. "This does nothing to allay those fears."

Part of the problem is that job reporting goes down only to the first subcontractor level. If a state receives a stimulus grant and subcontracts it to a city, for example, the state counts how many people it employed to administer the funding and estimates how many the city employed. The sum of the two is reported as the number of jobs created. But if the city contracts out the program, as expected, those jobs aren't added in.

Then, experts say, there is the question of how to count "saved" jobs, especially important since the final job numbers will lump those together with "created" jobs. Some cases are clear-cut, like school districts' decisions not to pink-slip employees after stimulus funds came through. But as agencies get more information about what funding will be available and plan accordingly, defining a saved job gets trickier. "It will likely become a question of 'If you did not have this money, what budget changes would you need to have made?' " says Leslee Fritz, director of Michigan's economic recovery office.

It's not unlikely that the White House will issue more guidance on counting stimulus jobs. Given the intricacies involved, though, even the best methods won't yield a precise count, at least not before the recession's end.

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The employment czar should have placed the numbers correctly or cause a greater depression. (employments unemployments re-assignment appointments, re-organization plans

or layoff employed unemployment insuranced.

Registered Employer For Determinations

The benefit years as due wages was not reported for federal and or corporate therefore the numbers were listed as unemployment non-wage

earners or employment ratio's determination as non-payment of wage persons.

The State Insurance Division reported sending documents as far back as 2008 that said the benefit year not established by employer, no wages

reported in base period the states that it's a due factor.

Some of those workers are re-assignments; these offices did not go back dated and correct their Unemployment Insurance Transcript to remove layoffs and the re-assigned appointments for the national unemployed ratio as registered. (Unreported Stimulus)

Type of NC 4:32PM November 29, 2009

Stimulus has been a failure because of its flawed design to only help the political agenda. It is not possible to actually account for any jobs saved thus far.

Fact: Over 2 million jobs lost since Obama swept into office and they are still falling by the wayside.

Fact: How many more jobs will be lost now that CIT will go into bankruptcy since tax-cheat Geithner won't give them bailout money? It will be far more than would have been lost if there had been no bailout of GM and Chrysler.

Vote out all incumbents in 2010 and 2012 and create term limits for all of Congress. Anyone with over 2 terms is highly probable of being a crook-- Murtha, Frank, Rangel, Dodd, Hoyer, Pelosi, Boxer, Waxman,Miller, Baucus, Ensign are a few names that come to mind.

Ken of WI 3:24PM July 16, 2009

The first thing that can be done is throw out all incumbents in the House next year. That will get President Obama's attention and he may slow his socialist agenda.

Charles Miller of FL 1:47PM July 16, 2009

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