Discrimination against gay and lesbian Americans who are military fighting men and women is so anachronistic as to be no more than a vestigial limb on the body of the American military.
Unlike President Obama, who never served a day in the military, President Harry S Truman WAS an American fighting man who displayed qualities of leadership, bravery, and courage under fire. President Truman desegrated the military in 1948...20 years before the rest of (racist) American society caught up--and President Truman was NO social liberal; he just realized that American fighting manpower was stronger WITH Blacks integrated than segregated.
It is difficult for President Obama to stand up to the neanderthals under his command because the president lacks military experience…and credibility. That is why he often looks to be bumbling, stumbling, unsure, and clueless. That is why the idiots under his command treat him like a naive sissy who can be routinely pimp-slapped.
After President Obama finishes his first (and only) term, it would seem as though the next president will have the military cred to completely dismantle the archaic practice of discrimination against gay military members.
When fighting two simulaneous wars, every able and ready fighting man and fighting woman is gratefully welcomed by all liberty-loving Americans who realize that freedom is not free…and that freedom costs blood.
Scrivener5of NY8:42AM April 02, 2010
Here's from an article published on February 14, 2010:
Obama's national security adviser, retired Marine Gen. James Jones, said on CNN's "State of the Union" that the policy "has to evolve with the social norms of what is acceptable and what is not."
It is precisely this type of ignorance of history--this type of ignorance of how President Truman DEFIED the existing "social norms" of racist 1950s American society--this type of ignorance that so characteristically defines the bumbling, stumbling, and clueless Obama administration. Sad state of affairs.
President Obama, enough is enough. Put up or shut up. Dilly-dally is only going to end up with you being shown the door when your first term is up. Then, the collective American public will bid you goodbye and advise you--in the old Southern saying--to not let the door knob hit you where the good Lord split you.
Scrivener5of NY8:28AM February 19, 2010
I feel if you are not a soldier ,or have not served ,you should not have a say.
I am a vet,(12 years service),and I know how it feels to have to shower,bunk and change in front of other females,however I felt comfort in knowing that they were heterosexual. I understand, that some of them may have been gay,but I did not know that. SO ,if someone was "looking" at me I did not think anything of it. However, if I knew that they were gay,that "look" would have been taken differently,by me.And ,that is the problem.
The military separates females,and males for a reason.It is not right to force someone whom is heterosexual to have to shower with a known homosexual. Thousands of gays have "signed up" and joined the military since the DADT poilcy took effect ,so apparently it is not all that bad of a policy.The military is not a social club,if you don't like the rules and regulations ...then don't sign up.
By the way, I am a black woman and I wish peole would stop comparing being black and/or being a woman to being gay. I cannot hide may race and with open showers, my sex .
dianeof TX10:52PM February 06, 2010
President Obama delivered the blow against discrimination that the FIGHTING men and women of America have been expecting him to deliver.
As an American fighting man, I am proud of the promise he made. Good job, Mr. President.
Straight men and women in the military simply DO NOT CARE who sleeps with whom...as long as you can carry your own weight...and that you can FIGHT.
From boot camp to the battle field, I KNOW for a fact that my brothers and sisters who are gay are just...my brothers and sisters in BLOOD.
Now, let's get back to the grim business of WAR.
(As you were...)
Scrivener5of NY11:58PM January 27, 2010
You so called 'experts' do not even know what it is like to be in the military so why dont you stop and think what it would be like to have gays in the military.Ok, you would shower and bunk with them.Yes that would be very nice to have a homosexual watching you naked.Like the men and women in the military dont already have enough on their plates.
Roland Jonesof VA6:05PM March 12, 2009
I have retired from the military this is my two cents on gays in the military. There are three sides to every coin. On one side a people whom see gaiety as acceptable, they are entitled to feel that way. Then on the another side, which is where I stand homosexuality and any likeness is terribly unacceptable, however on the edge of the coin is this; That all people are with emphasis on all have the right to choose, whether they are right or wrong does not make them any less a person. It should not effect there job and if it does we need to ask why. Is it because we hold it against them for what they believe is acceptable? or,Is it because what we believe is unacceptable is being flaunted in our faces. That is why we have no peace in this world. Whether you are right people or wrong people the only world peace will come when we can live together. When the time comes right and wrong will be properly addressed and distributed accordingly. It is one thing to be wrong and the same thing to force what you think is right on someone else.
OK! so maybe it was my three cents worth. Ban or no ban is not the question. The Ban may provide quality of life on one side of the coin but it will remove it from the other. Don't ask don't tell works as well as laws established to protect people. If it works don't fix it. Taking away don't ask don't tell will only cause greater conflict.
Daveof VA6:56PM February 14, 2009
As a former Army Officer let me first state that there IS NOT a ban on Gays in the military. Simply stated there are certain sexual acts of the gay lifestyle that are in direct violation of the uniformed code of military justice.
The "Don't ask Don't Tell Act" was designed to PROTECT gays in the military from both witch hunts by homophobics and physical protection from most heterosexual men in the military who do not want to share a shower or bunk space with someone of the same sex that may be looking at them in a sexual manner.
The moment this ban is lifted it opens even those who would like to remain "under the radar" for their own protection to a potential line of questioning from superiors that places them in harms way. It will also potentially cause a sharp decline in recruiting.
Wake up America! The vocal few do not represent the majority.
johnof VA3:17PM January 18, 2009
I personally don't have anything against gay or lesbians. As long as they are happy then that's all that matters. However, turning over the ban on gay's in the military I find would be a dangerous move. The amount of AIDS and diseases may become more prominent in the military than they already are.
Pepperof VA10:32PM January 17, 2009
As a sailor who just got out i reflect on the times with my buddies. There were many occasions when i was harassed when led to my early honorable discharge, but there were also those who took me in and were some of my best friends. After some time, i moved on from my first command and realized that many people are understanding and dont care about my orientation, they care about their jobs.
I dont feel that people would leave, but feel that more would join knowing that there would be no minorities whatsoever. I feel the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is very destructable to ones self. Knowing that at any moment you can be turned in and kicked out, feeling ashamed of who you are. So i fell that lifting the ban would be greatly benefitial
Kellyof VA1:52AM January 16, 2009
Im currently serving in the military and disagree with lifting the dont ask dont tell policy i have no hatred towards the gay population but there are certain jobs in the military that should not be filled by gay people such as the infantry we spend alot of time with just men in the field and in combat the gay population obviously has feelings for the opposite race and theres nothing wrong with that but when emotions affect the mission it becomes a hazard to everyone and obviously if you are attracted to the opposite race your going to eventually have feelings for some individual
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