The Ignorant American Voter

Many Americans fell they cannot change the system, therefore they do not vote.

That is very understandable. For example: In Amarillo, TX over 86% of citizens voted to freeze property taxes for the elderly and disabled. For the tax to be implemented, each tax entity, city, county, and college had to adopt it. After repeated requests to do so by citizens, they would not do it. It took a citizens petition to remove it from the hands of politicians to put it on the ballot. It passed by a 2:1 majority and we now have frozen property taxes for our elderly and disabled.

With that kind of attitude I.E. "Big Brother" knows best, no wonder citizens do not vote. Why should they?

We need responsive government. For example,

1. When politicians run deficits, their salaraies should be reduced by the same percentage as the deficit.

2. Politicians should not be allowed to vote themselves raises. Citizens should do that.

3. All pork projects typically called earmarks should be elimintated.

4. The goverment's tax authority should be limited to 23% of GNP.

If you think the government will take care of you, you are part of the problem.

whs806 of TX 7:55AM June 04, 2008

From Factcheck.org:

Q: Were there really weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when the U.S. invaded in 2003?

I have friends in Texas, Seattle and Tennessee who say President Bush was right that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. They claim that the weapons were hidden in caves in the mountains, and are still hidden there, but we have not found them yet. Where did they get such ideas, and is there even the slightest chance they are right, and if so why wouldn't Bush have said this? How did such a belief get started, and is there a way I can dispel them of the idea?

A: No. The Iraq Survey Group determined that Iraq had abandoned its quest to develop chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and that it had already destroyed all of its existing stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.

As for how you dispel your friends' notions that Iraq really did have stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons when President Bush no longer makes such claims himself, we suggest ridicule. If that doesn’t work, you may be out of luck.

After the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the Bush administration formed the Iraq Survey Group and tasked it with the job of locating WMD stockpiles in Iraq. The ISG was staffed with hundreds of intelligence analysts and military personnel from the United States, the United Kingdom and Australia. The group scoured Iraq, searching for deposits of weapons. But that was actually only part of the ISG’s focus.

According to the ISG final report, the search for WMDs actually began during the invasion phase of Operation Iraqi Freedom. A military task force was deployed to investigate suspected WMD sites on the theory that the Iraqi military might otherwise employ those weapons against coalition troops. After the invasion, the ISG was established to conduct "a more systematic collection of evidence to build an understanding of Iraqi WMD programs." In other words, the ISG did not simply look for WMDs. The group also looked at Iraq's WMD capabilities and examined evidence relating to past WMD stockpiles.

During its investigation, the ISG reported that "[a] total of 53 munitions have been recovered, all of which appear to have been part of pre-1991 Gulf war stocks based on their physical condition and residual components." These isolated discoveries received significant media attention, and it's likely that these overhyped reports contributed to your friends' beliefs that Iraq really did possess WMDs. But the finds were rare, and the ISG concluded that they were not part of a significant stockpile of weapons. Indeed, after nearly two years of investigation, the ISG concluded that:

"Saddam Husayn ended the nuclear program in 1991 following the Gulf war. ISG found no evidence to suggest concerted efforts to restart the program."

"While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter."

"In practical terms, with the destruction of the Al Hakam facility, Iraq abandoned its ambition to obtain advanced BW [biological warfare] weapons quickly. ISG found no direct evidence that Iraq, after 1996, had plans for a new BW program or was conducting BW-specific work for military purposes."

Experts from the three nations failed to document any existent biological or nuclear weapons and discovered only a few random chemical weapons. The ISG concluded that contrary to what most of the world had believed, Iraq had abandoned attempts to produce WMDs. In his congressional testimony, the head of the ISG, Charles Duelfer, admitted, "We were almost all wrong" on Iraq.

The ISG report was sufficient to convince the Bush administration that there were no WMDs to be found; they called off the search in 2005. If that doesn’t convince your friends, we’re not sure what else might do the trick. Anyone who believes something without any positive evidence and in the face of evidence to the contrary is no longer acting on the basis of reason.

-Joe Miller

Leigh of NC 11:09PM June 03, 2008

Wake up! Fact: Saddam Hussein HAD WMD's, and murdered hundreds of Kurds. Fact: He refused to let the UN inspectors verify that he had destroyed them, and forced his country into an economic boycott for years. Fact: No creditable evidence exists to prove that he eventually destroyed them, ergo, they're still out there under the sands. Bush is one of the worst presidents (after Clinton) in recent history, but he didn't lie about this issue.

ChristmasTree of NY 6:40PM June 03, 2008