Top 5 Issues at the Copenhagen Climate Conference

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COMMON SENSE
I am against Cap and Trade in the best of times but it is national suicide to consider implementing this costly new program when America's economy is teetering on the brink! The only Cap and Trade I will vote for is handing their Caps to politicians who vote yes on the issue and trading them in for new representatives!
Poverty is the worst form of pollution. Otherwise, why are the undeveloped nations in Copenhagen demanding redistribution of wealth from the developed nations? And who will these nations turn to when America is destroyed?
WHAT ENTITY SHOULD DETERMINE EARTH’S CO2 CARRYING CAPACITY
I prefer the God of my Fathers decide rather than scientist who need grant money.
Genesis 9:7 As for you, be fruitful and multiply; Populate the earth abundantly and multiply in it.
Job 38:4 Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding,
Job 15:7 Were you the first man to be born, Or were you brought forth before the hills?
Psalm 104:5 He established the earth upon its foundations, So that it will not totter forever and ever.
Proverbs 8:29 When He set for the sea its boundary So that the water would not transgress His command, When He marked out the foundations of the earth;
Proverbs 30:4 Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son's name? Surely you know!

BenDoubleCrossed of FL 4:55PM December 10, 2009

THE RICH WILL GET RICHER
Cap & Trade is being imposed on the world because it creates a trillion dollar commodity market for hot air. The beneficiaries are the rich special interest who will get wealthier setting up and trading the new commodities market.
But citizens will pay more taxes to operate new regulatory bureaucracies and more for goods as business passes the cost along.
CAP & TRADE ENSURES THE STATUS QUO FOR OPEC AND TERRORISM
Isn’t the timing interesting? With the world in recession and US unemployment figures hovering around 10%. the EPA exceeds its authority and determines CO2 is a pollutant that must be regulated.
But America has natural gas and coal in abundance and could eliminate dependence on foreign oil and stop sending billions to countries that sponsor terrorism.
And it is estimated that every billion in trade deficit equals 13,000 jobs lost. Washington could keep money, technology and jobs in the US by reducing the trade imbalance. FYI: during the decades America enjoyed great prosperity; no concern was expressed for the plight of the uninsured.
The United States agreed to transfer jobs and technology to developing countries under INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT Algiers Declaration Algiers, Algeria, 4-6 March 1975
TROUBLING IMPLEMENTATION QUESTIONS
How many CO2 credits will be distributed world wide? $13 - 15 trillion? How will the process be audited to prevent outright fraud?
Who gets to decide how many CO2 credits each business or person should receive?
Should sovereign nations or the UN tax this new one world currency?
If a business in California closes and sells CO2 credits to a company in England, will a new California company be required to purchase credits before opening?
Will multi-national companies export new construction and jobs to 3rd world non-subscribing countries? Or will people of the Amazon miss out on new opportunities because an American company bought thousands of acres to be left unexploited to acquire carbon sequestration credits.
Does a growing population mean a lower standard of living and reduced CO2 allotments for each new person or business?
Should children be allowed to inherit their parents CO2 permits? Should couples be limited to two children?
IS MAN REALLY CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING
If so how do you explain the age of dinosaurs? Fred Flintstone must have had one hell of a fleet of Hummers!
According to science, Earth has had multiple tropical and glacial ages. Isn’t it more likely global warming is a cyclical event more affected by sun spot cycles?
The most recent news is that the oceans of the world will be cooling for the next 25-30 years.
Furthermore, it is my understanding that the most prevalent hot house gas is water vapor. Should citizens of earth try to stop the rain cycle?

BenDoubleCrossed of FL 4:50PM December 10, 2009

Political correctness amongst the 15,000+ attendees and the attendant fawning media will ignore the irony of this self-serving and bloated spectacle.
That political correctness along with economic forces will prevent discussion on the root cause of stress on the earth’s oceans, air, forests, rivers, and lakes.
http://pacificgatepost.com/2009/12/not-overheard-in-copenhagen.html

James Raider of WA 2:02AM December 09, 2009

"Do you want fries with that?"
The climate change train appears to have left the station regardless of the merits of the hypothesis. Many developed nations (particularly the U.S.) will handcuff their economies and will make payments to developing nations (if you can call China a developing nation). We are becoming a nation of consumers of goods and energy produced by anyone and everyone except us. Our employers and employees simply cannot compete on the uneven playing field that exists now. Why are we so foolish? Why has the public been unable to see the politics behind the global climate change initiative? Although political scientists agree on the global warming hypothesis, real scientists don't agree. Unfortunately, those real scientists in EPA and NOAA that don't agree with the GHG-- global warming mantra of our current Administration have been muzzled by their superiors so their voices have not been heard. We are our own worst enemy.

jkb of WA 8:01PM December 08, 2009

It sounds to me like it is time for the "Rich West" to consider buying some real estate such as the "poor" islands that can't afford the emission programs they support. It might be beneficial in the long run for the West to own outright land in other parts of the world.

Barian of SC 5:12PM December 08, 2009

Much like the UN, when many countries get together for the same, lofty goal (either peace or climate control), there's very little chance they'll agree on an effective solution since they'll be looking out for their own nation first. Personally its issues like these where the ineffectiveness of competing nations convinces me that we need an effective world government in an age of increasing globalization.

Wilson P. Willikers of WV 3:00PM December 08, 2009

If the America and the Rich west are insisting on slow cutting their pollution to the global air, then they offer space of their land to the small countries of the Pacific who are already suffering from the climate change. For them (industrialized nations) it is a matter of years for us here in the Pacific it if a matte of the moments. We have just had a Tsunami, in Tonga, Samoa and American Samoa. We are predicting more and we are the people who are at the moment facing the effects of the climate change now. Not tomorrow not the next ten years it is today we live and if we are safe to day we try to celebrate.
If any of the people who are trying to slow down the work for climate change were at the scene of the recent Stunamy in the countries mentioned above, I am sure they will change their minds.
we are not fish or whales we are just simple people of the pacific.

Bioll Falekaono 2:28PM December 08, 2009

Every country except the USA will have their hand out to collect money from this scam. There's no way to effectively monitor it to prevent massive fraud.
It won't reduce emissions, just transfer wealth to lesser developed nations. This will certainly create a second great depression.

Scott of TX 2:27PM December 08, 2009

These people have to be seriously stupid...forget that climate changes is a hoax, a lie and a conspiricy. Forget all the carbon rise is preceded by a rise in tempature making it a lagging indicator not a cause. This treaty is voluntary subordination of national sovereignty. The act of signing this treaty is incurring fundamental change in law and the relationship between the individual and our government and our government to other governments. It is not an act that can be fulfilled without incurring recognition of the fact that a legal invasion has just been consummated.

JP of TX 2:19PM December 08, 2009

The main issue should be that Mann made global warming is a scam.
These people ought to go to jail for crimes against humanity. I see Nuremberg style trials in the future of these goons who plan to destroy the world economy!

bielie 1:53PM December 08, 2009