UK Economist: Climate Skeptics are Confused

December 1, 2009 RSS Feed Print

MEERA SELVA,
Associated Press Writer

LONDON—A leading British climate change economist warned Tuesday that those who doubt the science of global warming are confused—and said their skepticism should not derail efforts to strike a climate deal in Denmark.

Nicholas Stern, who wrote a British government report on global warming, said hackers who posted documents snatched from the climate research unit at the University of East Anglia had muddled the debate at a critical moment.

Critics of the science behind global warming argue the hacked documents show academics manipulated data to strengthen their argument backing the phenomenon.

"It (the incident) has created confusion and confusion never helps scientific discussions," Stern told reporters in London.

Governments have begun final preparations for the 192-nation conference in Copenhagen next week, where parameters will be set for a new climate change agreement. The U.S. and China, two of the world's biggest polluters, have set targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions, and Stern said it was vital that countries managed to agree on measures to tackle global warming.

"We have a moment now when we could get a strategy agreed," he said. "If it were to dissolve in disarray it would not be easy to put this momentum back together again."

He said that if countries did not manage to reach agreement, world temperatures could rise by five degrees Celsius (nine degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, making much of the world uninhabitable.

Some of the scientists whose private e-mails were stolen by hackers have said they believe those who leaked the documents had deliberately tried to undermine the Copenhagen conference. Kevin Trenberth, of the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado, has said that he believes the hackers distributed only those documents that could help attempts by skeptics to undermine the scientific consensus on man-made climate change.

He said some of his own e-mails that were stolen were presented online out of context.

Stern, who wrote an influential report on the cost of climate change three years ago, said the science of climate change was sound and that those who did not accept it were mistaken.

"People have a right to speak up but if they are muddled and confused I do not believe they have the right to be called anything other than muddled and confused," he said. "The degree of skepticism (on climate change) among real scientists is very small."

Stern was launching a report on ways political leaders can take action on climate change at the London School of Economics, where he is now chairman of its climate change research institute.

In his report, he said countries need to reduce the annual emissions of carbon dioxide equivalent to 50 percent below the levels they were at in 1990. He also said rich countries need to provide $50 billion, or around 0.1 percent of their gross domestic product a year by 2015 to help developing countries combat climate change.

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energy policy and climate change,
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http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/Monckton-Caught%20Green-Handed%20Climategate%20Scandal.pdf

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TABLE OF CONTENTS:

THE WHISTLE BLOWS FOR TRUTH ............................................................... 3

REVEALED: THE ABJECT CORRUPTION OF CLIMATE SCIENCE ......................... 4

THE NATURE ‘TRICK’ TO ‘HIDE THE DECLINE’ IN TEMPERATURES ................... 5

BREAKING THE BROKEN CODE: DISSECTING THE DODGY DATA .................... 6

MAINSTREAM MEDIA ARE SILENT, BUT THE INTERNET ROARS .................... 10

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION? WHAT FREEDOM? ...................................... 11

WHY THE TRUTH ABOUT TEMPERATURE MATTERS ................................... 15

TERRESTRIAL VS. SATELLITE TEMPERATURE RECORDS ............................... 17

MORE OFFICIAL DISHONESTY ABOUT GLOBAL TEMPERATURE ..................... 23

A NATION TAMPERS WITH ITS TEMPERATURE RECORD .............................. 32

LYING EVEN TO CHILDREN ....................................................................... 35

AL GORE’S TEMPERATURE-RELATED FALSEHOODS ................................... 36

WHAT IS TO BE DONE? ............................................................................ 38

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Adpack of CA 4:51PM December 05, 2009

Whenever a trained scientest says, shortly after the "findings" are reliesed, "The Debate is Over", there MUST be independent review of information. This isn't a silly question, like what killed the dinosaurs or when did grass evolve. These kinds of questions might be facinating but have little to no efect on world policy. Global Warming doesn't seem to fall into that catigory. World econimic and social policy are in the ballence. With a question of such massive world wide importance, ALL information MUST be anilized. Not just the stuff that you want to be true, but ALL of it!

I'm sorry, but I havn't seen any compelling information to conferm the belief of man made global warming. It ALL comes from someone with an econimic or political agenda. If there were such overwelming evidence, it would be inescapeable. As it is, we have to rely on vague predictions of doom. THIS IS NOT SCIENCE! Science does not care about politics. In retrospect, I supose they are correct in saying that the debate is over. It is as it apears, a massive fraud!

Christopher Norgaar of CA 1:16PM December 05, 2009

it would be nice to actually view the emails in question especially since the current law states that any postings on the internet should not have an expectation of privacey.

MICHAEL MURPHY of FL 8:18AM December 04, 2009

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