Putting "Values" Issues in the Political Spotlight

Obama and McCain will engage with the Rev. Rick Warren on matters of personal faith and public policy

August 14, 2008 RSS Feed Print
Saddleback Valley Community Church Pastor Rick Warren speaks at the third annual Global Summit on AIDS and the Church, in Lake Forest, California.

Pastor Rick Warren.

As further proof of the growing clout of the values voters, presumptive presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama will make their first joint appearance in one of America's biggest megachurches, in a forum designed to elicit their thoughts not only on the issues but also on how their beliefs and values influence their decision making.

The organizer, host, and master of ceremonies of the August 16 event, the Rev. Rick Warren, is one of the nation's most prominent evangelical pastors. He is known as much for his bestselling books (The Purpose Driven Life) and global good works as for his dynamic leadership of the 22,000-member Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif.

Indeed, Warren's role in all of this may end up being as significant as what either candidate says.

Seen by some as the possible successor to Billy Graham as the nation's unofficial pastor in chief, Warren has done a masterful job of shaping an agenda that falls somewhere between the tightly focused causes of the old guard religious right and the broader-gauge concerns of many younger evangelicals. Unyielding on abortion and the sanctity of traditional marriage, he also calls for greater Christian concern with global poverty, HIV/AIDS, and climate change.

To engage with Warren, in other words, is to engage with a very powerful current within the larger values-voter stream.

And the format of Saddleback's "civil forum" is intended to produce just such an engagement. Instead of a debate, it will give each candidate a chance to talk for an hour with Warren on matters that he says are not usually emphasized in political coverage. Those are likely to include issues on the old and new evangelical agendas, but they will focus even more, Warren says, "on how they'd lead and make decisions."

Many observers say that this is a format in which both candidates could press their respective advantages and perhaps address some of their perceived weaknesses among values voters, particularly evangelicals and conservative Catholics.

McCain's identification with Republican positions opposing legalized abortion and same-sex marriage places him squarely in the camp of the older religious right. And most polls place him decisively ahead of Obama among evangelical voters. (A new Barna poll, however, shows Obama ahead in 18 of 19 different American faith segments except evangelicals, a group that Barna defines more narrowly than most other polls. And even within that segment, support for McCain has slipped.)

Yet there has been some hesitancy even among religious right leaders to embrace McCain, partly because of his uneasiness in talking about faith and partly because of his renegade reputation within the Republican Party. McCain has addressed the second concern by changing his positions on taxes and other matters; with regard to the first, he could use Saddleback to talk more openly and persuasively about the role of religion in his life and career. The crucial question, of course, is whether this will come across as real or contrived.

McCain faces an additional challenge. Recent polling by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life shows that younger conservative Christians are, in fact, concerned with matters that go well beyond the hot-button preoccupations of the religious right.

They will want to know, for example, what McCain (and of course Obama) think about global warming in relation to religious notions of stewardship of the Earth. They are more curious to know what the candidates will do about the world's growing food crisis than about same-sex unions (though conservative Christians prefer that they not be called marriages, as, in fact, does Obama). They will be eager to hear what both candidates have to say about abortion, though in relation not only to Roe v. Wade but also to social policies addressing the poverty that often drives women to opt for abortion.

Abortion would seem to be the greatest obstacle to Obama in gaining headway among the values voters, despite his demonstrated ease in talking about role of faith in his life and political convictions. But Saddleback could give Obama the chance to elaborate on his long-held commitment to encouraging alternatives to abortion and indeed to seeing abortion as a moral issue.

While he is certain to stand by the Democratic platform on preserving legal and accessible abortions, he can now point to a newly proposed plank that outlines policy supports for women who decide to go to term. Already, Catholic and evangelical activists are praising that plank. "I think this is driving toward a more effective and practical way of addressing the root causes of abortion, not just Roe v. Wade," says Chris Korzen, executive director of Catholics United, a nonpartisan online advocacy group supporting social justice policies.

The Rev. Joel Hunter, pastor of Northland Church in Longwood, Fla., and a registered Republican, also praises the Democratic Party's new direction and adds that he would like to see McCain and the G.O.P. make a similar move beyond ideological stands against abortion toward practical measures that would help reduce the demand for it. "Let's go from the ideological to the practical," Hunter says. And it is very possible that McCain will use Saddleback to show that he and his party are hearing that message.

The topic of civility in politics is also likely to figure into an event that is formally billed as the "Saddleback Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion." Here, Obama would seem to enjoy an advantage over McCain, whose campaign tactics of the last few weeks have veered toward negative character attacks, including the Paris Hilton celebrity comparisons.

For his part, McCain might take the occasion to argue that pointing out inexperience in an opponent, even through dramatic comparisons, is within the parameters of civil debate. But Obama is on at least as firm ground to argue that the metaphorical overkill in McCain's ads is precisely how civility is breached.

At the very least, it will make for an interesting question, possibly one of many in what could prove to be the most important nondebate of this presidential campaign.

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By: Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment.

The whole American election boils down to just one (1) and only:

Battle Ground State = Armageddon (literary) = Maryland State.

The are only four possibilites:

(1) Obama got elected. Maryland vote for Obama. Naval Academy stay in Maryland.

(2) McCain got elected. Marylad vote for McCain. Naval Academy stay in Maryland.

(3) Obama got elected. Maryland vote against Obama. Naval Academy stay in Maryland. It not feasible for Obama to relocate the Academy because it generate income to the state of Maryland. Many Black live in Maryland. The only thing Obama can do is to send in his secret police and get rid of his Black traitors.

(4) McCain got elected. Maryland vote against McCain. McCain relocates the Naval Academy. The problem is Arizon is the most arrid or driest place in the U. S. The entire state is a desert and Grand Canyon. How can a Naval Academy locate in a place with no water? So during this election McCain can campaign by saying if him was elected and Maryland vote against him then he will relocate to the state where there is plenty of water. So where else but the Great Lake and Illinois. McCain can also suggest other Great Lake states such as Ohio, Michigan, New York, Wisconsin, or Minnesota depending on who are going to elect him. So people in Illinois will vote for McCain and Maryland will have no choice but also vote vote for McCain. Since Maryland is the Black Capital near the nation's Capital and Illinois is a Black State, if Obama loses there, then their is no way he can win this election. The main issue and prize for this election is nothing else but the Naval Academy in Maryland.

Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment. 12:09AM September 09, 2008

The whole American election boils down to just one (1) and only one:

Battle Ground State = Armageddon (literary) = Maryland State.

An important presidential election record will be broken this year, it is not the first time a woman or Black person will be elected to the Executive office. We will be seeing the greatest American tragedy unfolding right before our eyes. It is one of the rare occasions when a native son will not be elected by his own state. To make it worse, such native son is the greatest hero in an area which has always been the pride and joy of that state. Correct me if I am wrong. I have hardly heard any one at the Repulican Convention or during their campaign mentioned the Annapolis Naval Academy, not even McCain himself. Being born in Panama to a naval family and travel all over this country and the world, McCain really does not have a true home. Arizona is a state he used for election to Congress which he has not visited frequently. The Navy Academy is the only place McCain can really call his home in which he had spent the happiest time of his college life with his navy friends. Maryland should welcome her naval son with open arms and elect him as president.

But, no! Maryland have 1.6 million Black or approximately 30 % of the state's population making it the "Black Capital" near of the real Capital of the nation. It was 36 % to 61% (almost double) in favor of Obama over Hillary during the primary here. All media and people in Maryland have expressed the sad fact that little or no Marylanders will vote for McCain. I personally don't like McCain very much but my conscience forced me to campaign for him. This episode is not only the greatest disgrace of all Americans but also of that of the human race. It is an unforgivable sin committed by all Marylanders especially its Black racists. People will ashame to live in Maryland. I am making suggestion to our Government to relocate its Naval Academy out of Maryland. The true and only battle ground states, for this election, are not Ohio, Florida or Michigan but Maryland. The decision is not who is going to become president? But whether God had made a mistake in creating man?

With this letter I have ended this election right here and now! All of you should know that it will be impossible for Obama to win without Maryland.

Again, the whole American election boils down to just one (1) and only one:

Battle Ground State = Armageddon (literary) = Maryland State.

The One and only issue in this election is: Whether The U. S. Naval Academy should remain in Annapolis, Maryland?

Jordan C. Fan 12:03AM September 09, 2008

The Puritan Religious Values Of Sarah Palin.

By Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment.

Since Palin is from the West, those battle ground states such as Alaska, Oregon, Hawaii and Washington State can be won more easily by Republicans. There is also potentials for a California victory which will definitely be decisive on the whole election. Obama was born in Hawaii, Obama's defeat there will be his greatest humiliation. Alaska is one of the biggest oil producing state. When oil drilling is the number one issue in this election, being a governor of Alaska will certainly help. Alaska is alo the last remaining wilderness of the U. S. A. It will be a good opportunity for the Republican to show their concerns of the Environment by using her. Palin is a woman therefore will attract women voters. She is young, very pretty with great sex appeal to straight men and lesbian women also. Her pregnant teenage daughter will draw sympathy from those who were teenage unwed mothers and pro-life anti-abortion voters. Single mothers will also be attracted to the Republican Party. She represents traditional White families of Puritan values as opposed to those predominately single parent unwed mother type Black families. Neither McCain nor Palin are political correct. They only speak the truth and are very "genuine, what you see is what you get!" as quoted from the Alaskan Republican Convention delegates. She represents White people who have been displaced from the lower 48 states due to crimes and harassment from Blacks there. Those White people have little or no choice but to seek Northern Exposure living in Alaska for peace and quiet. They will certainly revenge Black intimidation and harassment. McCain's situations is quite similar. After the Civil War, the U. S. was destabilized by its Black minority. The only way to unite this country was to destabilize other nations and the world. To achieve that goal, the U. S. had to invade other countries such as Vietnam. McCain was a pawn and victim of such U. S. aggression. He certainly will blame African American for that. Palin was the military commander of the Alaskan Air National Guard which are useful experience for a future Commander-in-Chief of this country because Alaska is bordering Russia and near China and Japan with one fourth of all U. S. nuclear missiles located in that state. McCain who was also a professional soldier himself will feel comfortable working with Palin. Among both Republican and Democratic Party tickets Palin is the only one with executive and administrative experience . All other candidates McCain, Obama and Biden have only legislative experience. It is impossible for Obama to survive the harish punishments from God.

Jordan C. Fan, Prophet Of Environment 11:57PM September 08, 2008

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