Public Doesn’t Blame Bush Tax Cuts for Deficit

Reader Comments

Back to blog

The 47% who would "write a check" for the increase wouldn't be writing tax checks because they don't pay any tax.

JOHN of FL 5:52PM May 14, 2010

The first, and only, defense offered by our friends on the left regarding Federal spending is to pretend that Bush's deficit spending rivaled Obama's. To which the honest answer is: Not hardly! Check out the inconvenient graph to show the relationship: http://tinyurl.com/yc4ngs3

We're already facing a $12 Trillion deficit; the CBO projects it at $20 Trillion by 2020 at the rate that Obama and Congress are saddling us with deby.

Inconvenient fact number two: if you taxed "the rich" at 100% -- that is, confiscated all their money -- it wouldn't run the Federal government for a week. The commenter, above, whining that the "top richest 1% own almost 50% of the nation's financial wealth" conveniently forgets that the top 1% also pay more income tax than the bottom 90%. And a recent news article notes that about 47% of households -- including families making as much as $50,000 -- will pay NO Federal income taxes at all for 2009. Are they paying their "fair share"?

The government isn't starved for money; it takes in over 18% of GDP already. The problem is that the Federal government spends too much. The bigger problem is that people like our friendly commentators don't think that's a problem -- or that it needs to spend EVEN MORE.

Paul in NJ of NJ 6:34PM April 09, 2010

This is so absurd. Bush/Obama are both the same: big government spenders who in favor of war without end. Immoral sums of feed-the-rich bailout money have been showered on the filthy rich 24/7 since as far back as 9/11 as "We the people" continue to get showered on by what's been hitting the fan.

How ubfair and typical is that. And how quickly we forget, if we've even been keeping track at all. I question the intelliegence of a "public" who don't think the rich should have to pay their taxes, especially when the top richest 1% among us own almost 50% of the nation's financial wealth.

Peak oil, big government taxation, when mixed with a populace dumbed down by "bread and circuses" stimulus and Reality t.v. is a recipe for disaster. And to hear that those most responsible for the recession get off with a slap on the wrist and o.k.'d tax-cuts from the court of "public" opinion shows that ignorance is at an all-time high.

A 3% tax on everything, 50% of paychecks going to the military, and having a $78.8 trillion national debt that almost equals the GDP of the entire world. And that was before Obamacare's $3 trillion price tag with 23 million people in America still lacking health insurance in 2019. We need to trim the oil wars, trim the fat, and make the rich pay their fair share.

Most of us don't even have a clue how unsustainable our consumerist economy is. That's good news if you're an Ant; bad news if you're a Grasshopper. The "public" can play all summer for all I care. Just don't expect the taxpayers to fork over "Ant" stimulus because you were lazy and hazy.

Todd C.W. of HI 2:58AM April 04, 2010

Whatever else may be said for Mr. Bush, he certainly was no piker in the spending department. He was a little bashful abour paying for his high priced elective debacle in Iraq, leaving that part of his misadventure to future leaders and taxpayers. Getting out of that part of the world with all possible deliberate haste will slow the flow of red ink dramatically. The present administration's decision to properly budget for his (Mr. Bush's) ill-advised choice to open up a war has raised a clamor about "big" spending. The fact that the "big" spending under the previous administration was hidden by "big" borrowing is largely ignored.

I must take issue with Mr. Petrillo's assertion that failure to invest is directly related to the pending normalization of dividend taxes. Taxes were not the driving force behind my (successful) investment decisions before Mr. Bush's tax relief, during the period of the relief, nor do I expect this to change when the relief expires. As my sainted mother-in-law once remarked on the subject "just be grateful that you have it to be taxed."

Leon Maxwell of GA 7:30PM April 02, 2010

Obama' failure to continue dividend and capital gains tax rates may be the single reason for lack of investment and subsequently the prolonged recession. No incentive to invest has crippled the recovery and made it jobless.

JIM PETRILLO of NY 6:08PM April 02, 2010

It is a tax on every level of production, but gets passed down the line until it is paid by the consumer. At that point, it becomes a hyper-regressive sales tax on the poor, who must spend almost dollar they make.

There has been little or no discussion of which I am aware of what taxes, if any, the VAT would replace. If it replaces a portion of the income tax, the poor once again take it in the shorts, while the wealthy laugh all the way to the bank.

Once a tax is in place, it almost never goes away or decreases. So, the Feds start with a reasonably low VAT, but it increases over time. Also over time, the states decide that a VAT is a great idea and jump on the bandwagon.

The same people who rabidly scream "socialism" seem to be the ones pushing the VAT, a concept which originated in Europe. This alone should make the voter suspicious.

James of CO 6:00PM April 02, 2010

Borrowing for tax cuts for the rich and the Iraq war required massive borrowing from Japan, China and others--raising our national debt and the half trillion dollars in annual interest that could have been used elsewhere. Some interesting aspects of various taxation schemes of the US and Europe is found in Book 4 of the free ebook series 'In Search of Utopia' (http://andgulliverreturns.info)

DrBob of CA 3:05PM April 02, 2010

Borrowing for tax cuts for the rich and the Iraq war required massive borrowing from Japan, China and others--raising our national debt and the half trillion dollars in annual interest that could have been used elsewhere. Some interesting aspects of various taxation schemes of the US and Europe is found in Book 4 of the free ebook series 'In Search of Utopia' (http://andgulliverreturns.info)

DrBob of CA 3:05PM April 02, 2010

Where is the link to this poll? It's not on the Democracy Corps website: http://www.democracycorps.com/polling/

Is Paul getting his misinformation from Politico again?

LucasFoxx of WA 3:00PM April 02, 2010

Analysis of the numbers is clearly not the average Americans' forte. They usually respond more to stimuli similar to ringing a bell, or saying no taxes, or whatever.

The dollars rebated to Americans cost us billions in interest that we are still paying today. Typical of a rich kid, Bush didn't worry about leaving money in the piggy bank for those that followed. He assumed there would always be a rich daddy, Saudi prince, or sports team buyer to bail him out, just as they had all during his early years of life.

Americans have been told repeatedly that they didn't need more revenue - just more tax cuts, but still get what they wanted - ever since Reagan particularly. Social Security mostly pays for itself, so it is not a concern. The war in Iraq did waste $1.3 trillion dollars - nothing to sneeze at. That plus the Bush rebates total more than $2 trillion dollars of the total debt we have.

Spiralling healthcare costs are pressuring, so the legislation just passed should slow that down. We also pay $200 billion in INTEREST on our debt. To foreign countries more and more who own our debt. That doesn't help anyone here at all.

So why are people saying they don't want a VAT? Because most have no idea what that is, and believe that the tooth fairy is going to come up with the money we need to pay off the debt.

Fritz Hollings (ret. Senator) wrote a great article on this just yesterday. People should read it, learn a bit, and then decide what they think about the VAT and other plans to get back to financial health. Hollings was wise, he is retired, so maybe he could become an advisor to those who are trying to come up with solutions.

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/apr/01/make-value-added-tax-winning-weapon-trade-war/

This is not a popularity poll. Cutting spending alone will never fix the problem. Yes - that means a tax increase somewhere. It should be progressive and spending based.

Look it over.

DeeToo of SC 2:06PM April 02, 2010

Add Your Thoughts
Your comment will be posted immediately, unless it is spam or contains profanity. For more information, please see our Comments FAQ.

Back to blog

About this blog

About this blog

Washington Whispers has been featured in U.S. News & World Report since 1933, offering a fun, insider's view of Washington.

advertisement

Latest Videos

advertisement