Conservation Group Sees a Win for Obama on Climate Change

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The government and big business couldn't care less about the planet or the climate. Remember the seventies anyone? The government and big business were the perpetrators. Have they had a change of heart? Nope - they see a way to squeeze the gullible American public further. This administration plans to regulate and tax us to death. Liberty will soon be somethign yo tell your Grand kids about....

June of AR 6:08PM November 22, 2009

Recent studies show aerosol pollutants such as carbon soot, and not CO2, are primarily responsible for ice field and glacier melting. Copenhagen doesn't address this.

CO2 is a life-essential gas that allows us to live on Earth. Without it, we all die. Less CO2 means plants start to starve. Drop it to below 150ppm, and nearly all plants on Earth die. Is that what you Progressives want? To kill life on Earth? CO2 has declined over the past 540 million years by 94%. Nature has been sequestering carbon underground during that time. Progressives want to put more of it back underground where nature can't get to it.

Why do Progressives hate life so much?

RD of WA 7:44PM November 16, 2009

I hope so, but doubt there will be much to what is won. Our congresspeople and senators are so used to punting on important issues that progress is no longer their most important product. Climate change--like immigration reform, real health care reform, gay rights, simplification of the federal tax code, our Guns R Us culture--is an issue that will succumb, largely, to what is really important to politicians: the campaign contributions that will keep them in office.

The BIG money will win again. It always does in our political system and always will as long as political campaigns aim for no more than the politicians' benefactors, protecting their interests, see as necessary: fooling enough of the people enough of the time. It's the American way.

Ron W. Smith of UT 5:49PM November 16, 2009

Meanwhile illegal immigrants employed by Mexican drug cartels are doing REAL environmental damage to America's pristine wilderness parks by planting illicit dope plantations on them, killing wildlife, diverting water sources and soaking the ground with banned pesticides. What is the Obama administration and the conservation groups doing about THAT? Nada, because it's too politically incorrect to point out the grotesque environmental damage being done to our wilderness and wildlife by the Southern invaders.

MaryJ of CA 11:15AM November 14, 2009

We have had our own climate truth commission. The United States National Academy of Sciences was founded in by President Lincoln in 1863 to look at the science of issues that the government is dealing with. They have found that the scientific understanding of climate change had become sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action.

Or you can check out the letter to the Senate from The American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Chemical Society, American Geophysical Union, American Meteorological Society, University Corporation for Atmospheric Research and 12 other scientific organizations in the United States. The letter said "Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver. These conclusions are based on multiple independent lines of evidence, and contrary assertions are inconsistent with an objective assessment of the vast body of peer-reviewed science." They added "If we are to avoid the most severe impacts of climate change, emissions of greenhouse gases must be dramatically reduced."

These are not political organizations, these are the top scientific organizations in the United States. We ignore there message at our own risk.

Lee of MA 11:57PM November 13, 2009

Cap and trade is a scam and would be the largest tax increase in our history. The point this author misses is that for any Treaty it will require a 2/3's vote of the Senate to ratify it. That is simply not going to happen. This is the same issue that Clinton and Bush ran into. Hat tip to our Founding Father's having the foresight to prevent this nonsense. If we want to spend trillions of dollars there are better uses nationally then sending it to Third World Country war lords in this cap and tax scheme.

The nimrods in Congress that support this myth have been desperate to get legisltion passed Nationally thinking it would somehow grease the skids in Copehangen. Not going to happen, particularly as the Congress is now getting roasted by their constituents over health care.

Pete of CA 9:03PM November 13, 2009

From my vantage point, support for cap-and-trade (i.e. climate bill) has evaporated. Daily I read editorials, comments and letters-to-the-editor from all over the nation. When the House passed the cap-and-trade bill it was maybe 2-to-1 against cap-and-trade, opinion now is off the charts against it. This agrees with recent polls: 'attempting' to slow climate change with cap-and-trade is a low priority among Americans.

Frankly, I don't see Americans supporting cap-and-trade or any CO2 regulation until we have our own 'Climate Truth Commission.' ...and no longer rely upon the climate opinions of the United Nations. The UN is a biased political organization whose climate forecasts haven't proven prescient. The United States needs our own objective, transparent climate commission to think-through global warming.

-- Robert Moen, www.energyplanUSA

Rmoen of NV 6:05PM November 13, 2009

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