New Antiabortion Ads Target Bob Casey on Healthcare Bill

I fully support everyone's choice to believe in whatever helps them get through their day, whether or not it's been proven to be true and regardless of my own personal convictions/values. (For me, it's just the "right thing to do" and am treating others how I would want to be treated. I'm non-religious, therefore the motivation stems from personal choice.)

That said...Muser of NM, you have the best and most informed comment of the bunch - way to go! No one talks much about (or probably realizes) the real damage that is being perpertrated since they are so busy segrating themselves in an insane "moral battle"! Corporations spend millions of dollars resarching how to best attain their goals and agendas, resulting in very clever and (clearly) effective media campains that are passively received by millions of people. It takes time, which many don't have in our corporate-motivated consumer-driven culture, to actively seek out information. The posters on this site are indicative of this fact. If all the so-called "country lovers" really cared, the battle would be citizens vs. corporations, and not pro-choice vs. anti-choice, and it would be raging! But the corporations are getting exactly what they want, and paid for. Lessons learned from years watching Law & Order taught to simply follow the money trail to find the true motivation for any agenda. Any idiot can do that.

RCharles, I don't believe "god" created nature, so to use that phrase in an argument is moot, though I do agree with most of what you have intelligently contributed. I'm glad you introduced the fact of natural abortions. I'd like to go one step further... If people believe that "god" created all, then "god" created science, medicine and also means of artifically imposing death such as abortion, drugs and guns. But no one complains about the opposite...the "god"-given medical practices that artifically prolong life such as CPR, first aid, surgery, breathing & heart machines, artifical valves, skin grafts, disease fighting drugs and vaccines. It's the same agrument, but no one makes it.

Take "god" out of the pregnancy equation, and what we have left is a proven a medical condition. It is a fact that the American federal government defines pregnancy as a disability, which is why employer-only funded maternity leave is catagorized under the American Disability Act and the Family and Medical Leave Act. Under these laws, it is illegal to discriminate against any pregnant woman (or man!) based on their condition. There is no religion jargon here.

Senator Carey's work is a fine example of compromise, which is something the very-religious haven't shown much capability of doing, ever. They may say there is no "black and white" in "god's law", which in itself, is very gray.

Nicole4PA of PA 9:48AM March 22, 2010

I was disappointed that Senator Bob Casey seemed to be supporting something like the Stupak amendment for the Senate Health Care Bill.

Now I realize that he was working hard at a decent compromise, something that will avoid federal money paying for abortions (not that I agree with that position) and yet not invade the privacy or limit the alternatives for a woman to decide.

He has succeeded; the Senate Health Care bill does not have the onerous, Stupak amendment and the merger of the two bills will come out at the Senate version, a real step for common sense and the dignity of every woman.

I will actively support Bob Casey in his next primary and election. While I would prefer a more liberal Senator, I am pleased that Senator Casey is working hard to satisfy ALL of his constituents and not just the fanatical, right-wing pro-lifers, who want a theocracy instead of a democracy. They should move to Iran or Saudia Arabia.

RCharles

RCharles of PA 3:52PM December 23, 2009

As a Christian I firmly agree that abortion is an absolute morally offense because it deals with the killing of human life. However, the problem I have is with the sincerity of all these so call "Pro-Life" Conservatives Republicans who are so passionately using the issue to kill any form of Health Care at any cost including using the power of the pulpit. I wish I had seen the so called Neo-Moralist including the North American Council of Catholic Bishops be involved in the same passionate way when their Republican friends have waged wars and killed innocent people (men, women and children) around the world in the name of "Strategic Interest", or when they have funded, trained and armed ruthless dictators so they could conduct their ruthless murderous campaign in South America and Asia. I wonder if these people are downright ignorant, lost their sense of good moral judgment, or are insidiously deceiving themselves and the world. Any form of human life, regardless of whether they Black, Yellow or Brown are all created by God and deserve the same respect and dignity of Life.

Paul of ID 9:23PM December 20, 2009

All arguments against abortion are religious? Give me a break - it has to do with common sense and basic knowledge of life. An 'unwanted pregnancy' still involves a human life - wanted or unwanted. Abortion is the killing another human being -legally. Try googling some aborted fetus pictures. It's a human being. Why should I pay for that? You want to use abortion as a form of birth control then buy a rider.

And Cathy from NY - that's a lame argument..Babies with cigarette burns doesn't justify killing an unborn baby!. Have you ever heard of adoption? There are alternatives to abortion...

Alice of NY 5:21AM December 19, 2009