Quote of the Week: Rick Warren on Talking to Politicians

November 13, 2009 RSS Feed Print

By Dan Gilgoff, God & Country

"I don't talk policy ever with politicians. Never. Never. Let me say it again: never. But I do care about orphans. And the one issue that I've talked to them about is, it's just important policy to help the sick and help orphans."

—The Rev. Rick Warren, talking to journalists in Washington today. I'll have more on the meeting Monday.

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Dear Mr Dawkins,

I think Ben Stein let you off easily. I would have asked you the following;

1. You said you felt there was a 1% chance that there was a "designer" or God. I note that most scientists agree that a self creating universe, with life spontaneously arising, and then auto organizing time, space and matter has a probability of one in trillions... Looks like the odds are in God's favor...wouldn't you say?

2. You mentioned that you became an atheist after accepting evolution. What does evolution have to do with denying a creator? As a natural process evolution would necessarily be part of a creator's plan in a dynamic universe. The two are not mutually exclusive in any way.

3. If one believes that, in the beginning there was an eternally existing or self created rock, that blew itself up, self animated and created all the laws of nature, matter and energy and the dimension time and space - All through happenstance - then that person is considered a sophisticated, enlightened, intellectual. Even though there is not one shred of evidence to support that position. However, if one believes in a creator as a “first cause” he is a religious, simple minded dolt. It seems to me that one can logically conclude there is a creator - But it requires a huge leap of faith to believe in a self creating/eternal, auto detonating, coincidentally organizing, spontaneously animating rock, turning into the universe - and ultimately you...

4. You often beat up on the bible. Again, what has that to do with God?

5. You mention a quote something about, "Why does God hide from man?" Judging from the number of religious people I would conclude that He isn't exactly "hiding" - Rather you are denying Him - In order to deny you must have first considered Him. If by "hiding" you mean, why doesn't he appear to all and make his will known? The answer to that is fairly obvious... The preeminence of His will, would eliminate our "free" will and hence it would be an imperfect universe...Which would be impossible for God. In fact, our world, indeed the entire universe is perfect. And not through trick of chance.

An open mind, reason and logic will lead you far. perhaps even to God - Not the opposite, as you believe. The road you travel can only lead to nihilism as its final destination.

R.L. Schaefer of CA 1:15PM November 16, 2009

Damien of MS is right.... christianity is absurd, as is the old testament from whence it came. It's hard to believe that so many people believe in this idiocy, but it seems to be some pathological need to make sense of this amazing life of ours....aware beings on a small planet revolving around a controlled fusion reaction. It is bizarre, but believing in ancient mythology won't make it any easier. Organized religion has, no doubt, caused more confusion, anger, war, death, and domination over others than any other force on the planet. It's time for this absurd b.s. to end, before it's the end of us all.

william of GA 10:32AM November 15, 2009

Christianity is the belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Damien of MS 6:13PM November 14, 2009

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Dan Gilgoff covers religion for U.S. News & World Report. He is the author of The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War, and is a former politics editor at beliefnet. E-mail Dan at godandcountry@usnews.com.

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