Today's Picture: The Pope's Wednesday Audience

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Ajura dawnveirs expresses many of the common sentiments of atheists who are quite ignorant of Christianity, and unwilling to use the reason they value so highly to educate themselves about what Christians really believe. If religious people are simply afraid of hell, then why do so many believe? Why do so many I met as a former atheist believe in God because reason led them in that direction? Science has also done the same for many, especially many world-famous physicists. As for believing that God created the world in seven days, and that humans existed with dinosaurs--this is a fundamentalist belief, which is not believed by most Christians. The use of the weakest argument to defeat your opponent is known as a "straw man" arguement in logic. I would advise Ajura dawnveirs to study logic and the most intelligent exponents of the Christian worldview before he/she engages in polemics that require a well-informed intelligence, and a perspicacious understanding of profound ideas. The rules of any debate require that you enter the conversation as an informed individual. Ajura shows all the signs of an abysmal ignorance of the issues and questions encountered between theists and atheists. Start with C.S. Lewis, move on to Peter Kreeft's Philosophy of Religion, then go on to John Haldane, J.P. Moreland, and William Lane Craig. Such contemporary thinkers, however, only scratch the surface of an extensive Christian philosophy that has led such hardened atheists as Antony Flew to embrace theism. Yes, Ajura has a lot to read, a lot to study, and a lot to think about. Better to get started early before you embarrass yourself any further.

A disappointed reader of CA 7:52AM December 25, 2009

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normaliser of AL 7:48AM December 25, 2009

I think the pope does the right things for catholics like himself because he isn't going off and starting wars between his beleifs and other belifes THE POPE IS AWESOMe!!!!

Dustyn Ogle of IN 9:20AM December 03, 2009

Religion appeals to people who don't have intellectual stamina to study the "hard sciences," --biology, geology, astronomy, paleantology, etc. They prefer to "study gods" in theology classes. Scripture itself says Christ comes not to the wise. Maybe that makes mentally lazy folk feel good. Recently, a celebrity described costly years of work with a psychiatrist. Her doctor said patients seemed to feel very good that they were able to have it known they can AFFORD to spend lots of money on psychiatry. Maybe believers feel good to go to church and have pew-mates realize how much they can AFFORD to put in the plate. Fox owner, Catholic Murdoch gave ten milllion dollars for a new cathedral in Los Angeles. He & his wife were awarded a pontifical honor for doing great benefit to the church. Religion, because it threatens disbelief with Hell, makes it hard for believers to say they don't believe in Creation. From that point, they must say they believe God created everything in seven days, with all the absurdities attached to that. We actually had a presidential candidate who said humans and dinosaurs lived in the same era..(Palin.) The pope is "elected" by old men like himself. If he must, to save tithes, he'll say almost anything.

aura dawnveirs of CA 1:10AM November 13, 2009

Edward mentions the pope's "lovely flock." When herds or flocks of animals are brought together to breed calves or lambs, it's done because someone OWNS them. The owner expects to profit from the animals' flesh, milk, & hides, and to get more breeding stock. Atheists have too much self respect to allow herders to control them with church laws that act like fences, crooks or ropes. Religion is not respectable. It teaches the shameful lesson that a person should want to have a Fall Guy (Jesus) to take punishment they deserve. It's bad to tell victims "to love people who trespass against them"==meaning commit some crime against them. There is no justice where there is "mercy." Almost all of America's convicted bank swindlers, embezzlers, forgers, counterfeiters & members of organized crime are religious. They confess, pay the prescribed penance, are forgiven & are free to commit more crimes. After the IRA took note of Mafia funerals starting at cathedrals, Mobsters began having smaller ceremonies. In jail, many crooks are paroled sooner if they "get religion." Nixon's felonious Colson made a job for himself as a prison preacher.

ajura dawnveirs of CA 10:22PM November 12, 2009

If we tolerate abuse of power and wealth, then we say its a basic right to every authority, if we tolerate sex objects and disrespect of sacred reproduction, then we say its basic right to every individual and self-judgement. The bottomline is, are we responsible for every actions and doings along our way, this is no longer question wether the pope is doing his job or not, this is a question in us. Perhaps the influence of the pope affects our lives in some way, yet, I believe that our pope would not do fatal harm to his lovely flock.

Edward of ND 7:42PM November 12, 2009

The Vatican, a profit-based corporation, is notorious for hindering the advance of science. Ignorant popes, voted into office by other ignorant clerics, put Galileo under house arrest for saying Earth orbits the Sun. The Holy See made church laws banning conception & abortion, to make women provide an endless supply of believers who tithe ten per cent of lifetime assets. Our Supreme Court waited until 1973 before it made our civil government stop enforcing that church law. All those years, while men & women were forced to be parents, populations surged. Poor big families crowded into filthy slums, tenements, barrios, & shack cities. Their self-induced poverty caused growth of gangs & organized crime. Taxpayers are victims of Ban-Abortion churches. We're forced to pay $500,000 to subsidize one poor unwed mom for l8 years of her child's life. She can have as many tax burdens as she wants, all at tax expense. I haven't read what this pope said. If he admits there can be other worlds and other people, that will be amazing. Since he is supposed to make infallible statements, what will his church do, with such a big switch?

ajura dawnveirs of CA 6:30PM November 12, 2009

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Dan Gilgoff covers religion for U.S. News & World Report. He is the author of The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America are Winning the Culture War, and is a former politics editor at beliefnet. E-mail Dan at godandcountry@usnews.com.

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