Poll: Will You Read Creationist Take on Darwin's 'Origin of Species'?

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Bypenear of AL 11:40AM December 13, 2009

I've been reading creationists trashing science since the mid-1980s and no new arguments ever appear. BananaMan Ray Comfort is just another sad and hapless denialist in a long line of science deniers.

RBH of OH 11:27PM November 06, 2009

I would not. It is pointless as the creationist agenda is not to educate but rather to suppress creative thought and scientific investigation.

The people behind pushing creationism are simply trying to dumb down their followers in order that they keep sending money rather than asking questions.

Ted Haggard being the perfect example of a man who preaches one thing to the congregation in order to get their money whilst doing another.

keith Johnston 9:28PM November 05, 2009

<<"What a silly idea. Why should I want to read Comfort's "version" of the 'Origin of the Species' when I have Darwin's version of his own book? What next, somebody's "version" of the Bible? Or, perhaps, Comfort's version of Dawkin's "Greatest Show on Earth"?">>

Agreed.

Although for interest's sake, I wouldn't mind taking a gander at Jefferson's Bible.

Nick 8:04PM November 05, 2009

Given the unlikelihood of someone posting comments from an alternate reality where Darwin's work has been discredited, one can only assume that RLang is tragically deluded or lying.

If On the Origin of Species were an embarrassment to the scientific community, why would people around the world be celebrating the sesquicentennial of its publication and the bicentennial of its author's birth? Why would scientists encourage modern biology students to read it and make its complete, unabridged text available in multiple places online for instant access? Why would Ray Comfort feel the need to expurgate multiple sections of it in his "special edition," and why would Dr. Eugenie Scott defend the document against this transparently manipulative butchery?

The issue seems to be one of inerrancy, a fundamental dividing line between creationism and science. In science, the questioning of authority is not only allowed, it's required for our knowledge to grow and refine. Darwin was a brilliant thinker but still only human and a man of his time. He didn't have access to all the evidence we have now, so he got a few things wrong. That neither invalidated the big picture of his work nor prevented natural selection from becoming the cornerstone of our modern understanding of evolution.

In contrast, young-earth creationists cling to a literal interpretation of the Bible (or Qur'an). Their fragile sense of self-worth hangs on believing that God created them in His own image, and that everything in the universe revolves around them. To maintain this illusion, they cannot admit that their holy text is at odds with reality in even the smallest detail even when it contradicts what they can see with their own eyes - except, of course, when inerrancy would be inconvenient (like having to memorize and obey Yaweh's other 600 commandments). How much more civil these discussions might be if they took to heart the Bible's many admonitions to be courteous and seek knowledge and understanding.

It's darkly amusing that creationists are so insecure in their faith and so desperate for external validation that they resort to "science" and "logic" to promote their belief in the supernatural while renouncing evolution as a "religion" requiring "faith" (as if they thought those were bad things!). How strong can their faith be if they have to go looking for proof that the Bible is literally true?

Sanity Jane 2:58PM November 05, 2009

Unfortunately, this "debate" isn't really about critical thinking and entertaining reasoned point and counterpoint.

Even intelligent religious fundamentalists are going to reject evolution because they must -- it is a tenet of their faith. They simply can't accept any evidence that would contradict their literal interpretation of Scripture; they truly aren't "searching for truth," as one post idealistically suggested that "we all are," as they already 'know' it.

Posts like "Blogger in OH" are another step downwards, however. By his view, God's hand is self-evident, because life is "complex" and couldn't happen "by chance." That's powerful "critical thinking," all right. And evolution is a "cult" even though there truly is zero legitimate opposition at all to the main theory in the scientific community -- oops, I guess the entire scientific community must comprise the cult!!

Bob Lilja of CA 9:41PM November 04, 2009

Watch Ray Comfort explain Creationism. It's....hilarious. Seriously funny stuff.

Nina Wood of AL 4:43PM November 04, 2009

Have you ever READ Darwin's book?? Evolutionists are rightly embarrassed by it, it is pure fantasy. Darwin even based his assumptions on evidence he figured someone would find someday, and they haven't.

A fresh look at actual evidence and the basis for evolutionary theory reveals that logic was not involved at all, just grasping at straws to try to explain the world in the absence of a Creator at all costs.

Scratch the surface here:

evolution-facts.org

Creationists are not brain-dead. We are after the truth as much as anyone else, we just don't make the error of eliminating a Creator as a possibility.

Interesting that evolutionists don't debate Creationists anymore like they used to, they know they loose, yet they continue to spout forth that the debate is over, and that they won! Master propagandists.

RLang of PA 9:41AM November 04, 2009

This religious fanatical movement to debunk science has been at it again. I understand the need to continue to force feed the masses. Keep them ignorant, while we (the religious pious) continue to plunder the earth. So much harm has been done in the name of God…Science and religious have a meeting ground…these people just don't get it. As I grow older (and wiser) I realize the real power is in education; and keeping mankind has never advanced any real progress. The Christian message is one of hope, not one of military zealotry, as it is now. Let each and every person make a choice. I am very comfortable with science and Christianity being hand in hand.

A. Dominguez of FL 8:49AM November 04, 2009

What a silly idea. Why should I want to read Comfort's "version" of the 'Origin of the Species' when I have Darwin's version of his own book? What next, somebody's "version" of the Bible? Or, perhaps, Comfort's version of Dawkin's "Greatest Show on Earth"?

Hamzah Majid of CA 6:00PM November 03, 2009

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