Healthcare Bill's Abortion Curiosity

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It is completely injust that my tax dollars are going towards MURDER.

Michelle of FL 12:26PM April 20, 2010

Tough topic! Solutions?

a) close your legs

b) pay attention to who the taxpayers are. they should be able to chose what they pay for, even if it goes against feminist opinions.

alan frazier of OH 12:06PM November 13, 2009

Tough topic! Solutions?

a) close your legs

b) pay attention to who the taxpayers are. they should be able to chose what they pay for, even if it goes against feminist opinions.

alan frazier of OH 12:05PM November 13, 2009

If one group of citizens can decide they don't want their tax dollars used for an activity that is considered LEGAL, where does it end? If anti-abortion people get to pick and choose, why can't everyone? Anti-war protesters can refuse to have their tax dollars pay for wars they feel are unjust and illegal. Those opposed to the death penalty--they get a refund with every execution. Greenpeacers can pocket money that would have gone to corporations that pollute. And it goes on and on.

Pretty soon, once we've bowed to all the special interests, there will be no tax dollars available for anything. Or we'll have a tax code that has a series of check boxes, "I want my tax money to pay for..."

What makes the abortion issue such a special case? And if they get to get away with it, the rest of us should start demanding the same consideration.

weyah_2000 of MD 5:57PM November 10, 2009

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This whole topic really frustrates me.

No one but a woman should decide what happens to her body. An existing, living person's right to her full life is more important than a mass of cells without consciousness. It is good to create ways so that women don't have to resort to abortion - most women I know who had to get an abortion found it one of the most harrowing, difficult decisions. All the same, the final decision has to rest with the person who's body it is. A woman is not an incubator who can be decreed to have to stay on against her own will.

For the people who cleverly frame this issue as a "pro-life" stance, I have a simple question: if "life" is so important, then why not first save the millions going hungry in Africa, and people dying from hunger and disease, and in wars - lives lost from hunger, violence and disease in the world outnumber abortions by degrees of magnitudes. Rigteous defenders of "life", save them first!! They are “God’s children” too.

Truth is, this whole anti-abortion thing is, at its heart, motivated more by religion than by righteousness. It is easier to trample on women's rights than to do any hard work. Religion has always tried to control freedom of women - pick any religion from anywhere in the world.

Taking away women's rights on their bodies is a huge step backwards for America

Kajal of WA 2:56AM November 08, 2009

well..im not too obstinate or too undereducated.. and im not too sure why people who choose to decide a fetus is a human is rhetorical.

either way.. i would be crucified by pro choicers if given a moment to speak.

there are sooo many ways not to become pregnant, so those who become with child had a choice. as for those who had no choice.. it sucks, but they too have an option.

one is adoption..im in favor of adoption. i now have a 23 year old son whom i met 4 years ago after giving him up for adoption after being raped when i was 17 by a guy who knocked on my door.

and then theres abortion..

if youre 11 it is legal for you to get an abortion if you tell your teacher and your parents do NOT have to know..yes..its a law.

you can also sit around for 8 months, bloated, swollen and very pregnant and then decide to call it quits, go to planned parenthood and get rid of it. the child is fully functioning and mom must have labor induced, the baby(crying or not), must be 50% out of the mothers vagina.. then the doc..gets to stick a poker(metal and sterilized of course) through its skull. this was banned until january. president obama re-instated this "partial-brth abortion"..sounds so much nicer his way.

we had sex ed when i was a kid.. we saw sex, body parts, talked about love and even saw mutilated baby parts in a giant metal bin at the docs.

in reality, abortion is like a drive through... were too frickin lazy to do the right thing until were too messed up to change it..oh wait. i can stop eating burgers.

Red of CT 7:11PM August 29, 2009

While I don't believe in abortion, I don't believe the statistics on abortion either. My mom had several (3 or 4) miscarrages and each time she had to sign a paper that said she had an abortion which isn't correct. A miscarrage is something that cannot be helped whereas an abortion is a women's own decision.

What I am saying is that, if a women has a miscarrage, which is uncontrolled by anybody, they should not sign a paper saying it was an abortion. They are two completely different subjects. They need to have two totally different set of statistics, if there needs to be one on miscarrages then let it be so, but don't mix the two.

I don't believe in abortion, but I don't like miscarrages either. Both are devistating to all involved.

Rabbit of KS 3:24PM August 28, 2009

We need to address the holocaust of the abortion slaughter first.

In a parallel effort and a "common ground" approach we support Sex Education.

Sex Education is important and most people completely support it. Sex Education should include love, how lust is not love, abstinence, responsibile choices to protect life, sona gram video of unborn babies, unique DNA at conception, Sexually Transmitted Diseases, STDs that cause failures to have children later, how condiums don't protect against STDs, sexual anatomy, sexual reproduction, sexual intercourse, reproductive health, emotional relationships, reproductive responsibilities, values, healthy relationships, and contraception.

Talking about sex education and contraception prior to addressing the abortion slaughter is working on lower priorities first. Sex education and contraception alone will not solve the abortion holocaust. It's like wanting to discuss proper diet to a person that is currently having a heart attack. We need to solve the heart attack (the slaughter from abortion). Proper diet may help but it is too little too late for a person having a Heart Attack. We encourage a "common ground" approach of true sex education. Sex Education must come as a second priority to abortion.

Why don't we call it Love Education? Sex is something that any animal can do. Sex can be lowered to only lust. Humans are much more capable of the complexities of Love. Humans are not limited to shallow lust.

We Love Education.

Seek the Truth. Speak the Truth. Share the Truth.

Love Education.

Life is Love.

Love Life.

ComPassion of IN 8:46AM August 26, 2009

Each baby has it's own unique DNA from conception and they are growing human beings.

3200 unborn babies being aborted a day in America is a holocaust.

Talking about the other issues prior to addressing the slaughter is working on lower priorities first. It's like wanting to discuss proper diet to a person that is currently having a heart attack. We need to solve the heart attack (the slaughter from abortion). Proper diet may help but it is too little too late.

The slaughter from Abortion destroys,

- 133 unborn babies every hour in America

- 3200 unborn babies a day in America.

- 96,000 unborn babies a month in America.

- 1.2 Million unborn babies a year in America.

- more than 45 Million unborn babies in 36 years in America

We should focus on what is the greatest killer to human life in America.

Protect the least of our people.

We should respect all human life.

We should not Kill.

Seek the Truth. Speak the Truth. Share the Truth.

Expose the Slaughter to the Light of Truth.

ComPassion of IN 8:02AM August 26, 2009

Sandy D. of CO stated:

...if abortion bothers you so very much, get involved in efforts to reduce the circumstances (like poverty, rape, incest, birth defects, lack of birth control resources) which so often lead to abortion. Put your effort where (you say) your heart is.

But no one with an opposing view really addressed what I consider to be her most salient point. Let me elaborate. Those who protest abortions don't do very much to mitigate the circumstances that lead to abortions. I'll bet most anti-abortionists are against sex-education and free-condom campaigns. I'll bet most anti-abortionists maintain that teens shouldn't be having sex and should practice abstinence. So instead of fostering an environment where teens and young adults are responsible for sex, they foster one where youths feel as if they're doing something wrong - a sin. So, they don't plan for it and suffer the consequences afterward. Seems this type of position probably increases the number of abortions. In fact, I would argue that persons not fully committed to sex-education, planned parenthood initiatives, and any measure that would prevent unwanted pregnancies are not really against abortions; they are merely using it as a convenient contrivance to try to force their religious tenets into law.

So anti-abortionists, before you sling your rhetoric, I'll ask that you do as Sandy requested and "Put your effort where (you say) your heart is" and support any measure that would prevent unwanted pregnancies. Otherwise, pro-choice advocates like myself are going to yell 'Bull****' when you spout your empty rhetoric.

Ron of TX 4:14PM August 25, 2009

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