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latina escorts of AL 2:29PM July 06, 2010

So, please provide your proof that they DON'T exist. "OK...later."

Jerry of MI 7:50AM July 06, 2010

Just checking in to see if anyone has proven gods/easter bunny existence........no? ok, later.

Red John of CA 7:22PM June 28, 2010

So, you abandon your argument about 'leaching,' not to mention your statement that the decline of Christianity in the USSR due to a 'church tax' has been completely destroyed by actual historical analysis. Now you turn to giving your opinion, but do so in a way to make it sound as if it is the fact as opposed to an opinion. It seems the more you seek to set out to find 'facts' to justify your hatred of Christians, the more you end up making yourself look ignorant and unwilling to learn, as the 'facts' in question are debunked and you offer no rebuttal whatsoever, instead moving on to another reason for hating Christians.
You also have a habit of making extremely large generalizations, your views effecting not 'a few', not 'some', not 'most' but 'all' Christians, something which is highly un-scientific. It would be akin to saying that all rocks are the same--something which is completely false given their chemical composition, formation processes and the chemical reactions of weathering. Also, your mocking nature and repeated accusations of greed and stupidity on the part of believers simply make you look like a very angry person seeking to find a group of people to vent it on, just like with regard to socialists and the 'evil rich' populist platform, which on the historical record has shot worth ethic in the developed world. Your comments suggest, though keep in mind the word 'suggest,' that you believe yourself to be mentally superior to everyone of faith and seek to mock and force your views upon them as part of a duty. I could be misreading your comments, however that is how they come across to me, if you wish to clarify, by all means do.
You also suggest that the monetary support of pastors and priests (because their religious duties are their jobs) is 'proof' that Christianity was invented as part of a money making scheme. It sounds half plausible until you actually look at the history of Christianity and it's teachings, something which your comments suggest (but do not prove) that you have not, at least in any detail and with a half-opened mind. Christianity is unique in the history of beliefs--all beliefs in that it is open to everyone as opposed to only a select group of people, it advocates helping the less fortunate, living a life free of pride and envy, caring for all, honor and restraint for marriage and family relations, not to judge and the equality of all. Indeed in the early years of Christianity, women held the banner, something seen as highly degrading, yet something which against all odds prevailed.
Another surprising trend is that when close-nit Christian communities and families were broken up by 'progressives,' crime rates and infidelity soared as a result. Now I am not going to lie--there are a lot of people who claim to be Christian who aren't, and of those who are, many ignore certain teachings. People aren't perfect, however their failures are not justification to form a hatred against all people of faith.

Stephen of WI 2:51PM July 22, 2009

I was presiding officer of 5 organizations. In addition to using "Roberts Rules of Order," we followed rules to never personalize debate. Name-calling didn't even begin, due to the educational level of members. In this comment site, people do identify the person to whose comment they respond, BUT ONLY SO OTHER PARTICIPANTS WILL KNOW THE TOPIC. But a few impolite commentators insist on calling me by name, as if they're presence entitles them to some kind of personal tie to me. I stay on topic and let other commentators make lists of the nasty names some participants use because they come from different levels of culture. There are no gods but there are paid preachers. That paycheck is the only proof needed that religion was invented to generate church income. People will buy and use holy books until they attain more education. That's why preachers complain that higher public education is bad because "College students lose their faith." Some comments expose Bible flaws in such a way that I hope they continue, because their own comments will surely lead some readers to join atheist groups.

auradawnveirs of CA 2:23AM July 22, 2009

Just a point about your weak and feeble mind to say that science does not take a leap of faith and then scream about how there is no God is very hypocritical.
How have you come to the conclusion that there is no God? What experiment have you done to prove this theory? You have done none because there is none. So you have in effect taken a leap of faith in saying there is no God.
By the way, science still hasn't proven it's own theories on the origins of life and man. If you want to place your faith in science that it eventually will then I can't argue with that, but until it has you are also operating on faith that someday science will validate you belief. So don't go bagging on people who believe in God by faith because you are guilty of the same thing.

Marc Zimmerstien of ID 4:42PM July 20, 2009

There are many things which hard line retrograde believers cling onto and which at the same time, those who seek to denounce belief in its entirety seek to use to demonize all people of faith. However the things in question are largely made up of medieval guesswork when there was no other way to find out, say the age of the Earth.
First comes the claims about people living extremely long lives in scripture. At first this seems to be a contradiction to facts, however if one divides the age by 12, a realistic, but older age comes to light. Someone who for example was supposedly able to live to be 1,000 years old would have in reality, lived to be 83 years old. Where is the 12 from? easy, it's Lunar Years. Given that historical data suggests that the Egyptian Pharaoh Ramses II for example lived to the age of 99, that would mean that he lived to be 1,188 Lunar years old.
There is another thing of interest with regard to how the Eastern Orthodox Church estimated the age of the Earth to be. It's calculations match up to the Flooding of the Black Sea at around 6,000 BC, suggesting that this was Noah's Flood. Given that the elevation of the Pontian Lake as the pre-Black Sea was called was some 450 feet below sea level, it would appear as if the world had flooded to all the people living in that region. Indeed, the rocky shoreline of modern Turkey would have appeared as mountains from the low-lying region, and are part of the Armenian Plateau or 'Mountains of Ararat' Given that the flooding of the Black Sea was triggered by both the rise of sea levels following the end of the last Ice Age and a series of earthquakes which broke the Bosporus 'dam', such a flood would have baffled all the inhabitants of the region, as water levels would have risen by over a foot per day, yet without any rain.
Then comes the days of Creation, yet few people on either side of the argument ever give thought that Heaven is a different realm, a different Universe or dimension, so that everything could have been done in 7 'Heaven Days' yet that time frame would be meaningless with regard to the evolution of this universe, solar system and life on earth. Things could be easily set in motion from another universe working on its time frame to cause all the necessary reactions to take place for things to end up exactly how they are now without coming into conflict with anything in science. Indeed, the whole prospect of the universe being created out of nothing--which nobody can explain enforces such views which are well within the guidelines of science--save they add faith.
The true Christian scientist is one who seeks to understand the universe through science to figure out how God 'works' for lack of a better term. And this can be extended to all believers, for Einstein sought to 'Read the mind of God' through physics.
Your bigot-style comments towards Christians are running out would-be support for your hate Auradawnveirs, perhaps it's time to let go of this.

Stephen of WI 3:20PM July 20, 2009

Churches--and by your logic all Christians leaching off the government....that is your 'excuse' for all of this pent up hatred? You have yet to give any figures of how much this is costing. I checked websites which listed the breakdown of government spending going as low as 2.6 billion in energy spending and saw nothing with regard to any 'Church Spending.' About the only place it could be is part of the $52 billion spent on "Community and Regional Development", however that soared from $11 billion in 2005 due to wasteful spending, so it would be under 11 billion, most likely considerably under that figure given it lacked its separate listing. Not to mention this 'church spending' only effects a handful of churches nationwide. I go to a relatively large inter-denominational church with over 10,000 members and there is no gold, there are no stained glass windows or large carved statues...the building is large but made mainly of wood, brick and cinder block, and the decorations are mainly some framed paintings, bible quotes and wooden sculptures, the largest being a huge wooden cross in the main forum, while the platters the ushers carry are made of bronze. You see one group of people and then seek to lump them together with all others in order to demote them? That is a highly un-scientific approach, it's one based on hate not logic.
Somehow I doubt that your explanation has anything to do with your disdain for the entire Christian community. It looks like cherry picking when you consider how much money is wasted on welfare leaching, union leaching (auto industry being a prime example), social security, medicare, outdated military spending (primarily related to nuclear missiles and aircraft carriers), politician's pay and pensions, government unions, pork/earmark spending and 'green technology' spending....I just described roughly half of the 2006 government spending....you, giving you the benefit of the doubt that the total is around $5,500,000,000.00, half of the 2005 figure of Community and Regional Development are speaking of around 0.20%!
Even if it is higher, which I highly doubt, if Christians give even one cent more in donations to charity than the lavish churches get in government grants to support their un-biblical lifestyles, then your argument is completely shot, as Christians would be giving more than they would be 'taking' according to you. And that would just be the monetary part, not counting the hours of volunteer work, missionary activities to help the poor in other nations as well as our own inner cities. You have completely failed to justify your hatred with this excuse, just as when you twisted the facts about the USSR in your other post--where millions of Christians were killed in slave labor camps among other things.
You need to let go of your hate, as it is both destructive and as irrational as the hatred driving Nazim and Communists.

Stephen of WI 2:50PM July 20, 2009

The Bible does not tell us how or when the earth was created. It only tells us why and by whom. There is no conflict between science and the Bible on this point.

Hall of NE 1:58PM July 20, 2009

Scientists use the table of elements, and multiplication tables, etc., because they're accurate and they "work." When appropriate, scientists add to the table of elements. If a new computerized analysis program is invented, scientists adopt it because it "works," not because they took "a leap of faith" respecting it. Theology is a "quack science." It's accurate to call it that because it is "the study of gods," who never existed, do not exist, and were invented by writers of best-seller holy books. People who get a "Degree of Divinity"-- after reading about gods in holy books-- believe they themselves are "scientists" because of their involvement with the quack science of theology. Professional Creationists (paid preachers) MAKE THEIR LIVING by evangelizing. Their job description is to create tithers, keep tithers and increase numbers of tithers. Proof of non-existence of god(s) is the money in the pledge envelopes and collection plates, and in the fact that churches take tax exemption because they are so deeply interested in increasing church income.

auradawnveirs of CA 10:04PM July 19, 2009