Poll: Most Mainline Clergy Oppose Gay Marriage

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seo lace of AL 8:00PM May 02, 2010

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soundtracks of AL 6:07AM July 17, 2009

The definition of insanity is thinking you can disobey God and make him endorse it. Jesus clearly said that no unclean thing can enter heaven. The term "unclean" includes all those who practice immorality. Just as you can't do whatever you like in this country and expect that the law won't invoke punishment, neither can you break God's laws and think you are doing well. If someone steals from someone else, will the law say: "Go ahead. We'll change the law so it's legal to steal"? No, the law will not excuse malefactors. Neither will God endorse sin.
As for "Christian" homosexuals, it is not those who say, "Lord, Lord" who enter the kingdom of heaven, but those who do the Lord's will. (Matt. 7:21) You can't just say you follow Christ while walking the other direction and expect to end up in his location. Neither can you make a law saying your pathway is taking you the right direction, when you're clearly headed the wrong way. So, when people talk about "gays" having the "right" to marry, that is an oxymoron. Rights are God-given. We have the right to obey God or face the consequences. You can't legislate God out of existence.
Just as going the wrong way will make you end up in the wrong location unless you turn around, disobedience will certainly incur the wrath of God unless a sinner truly repents. I know it's not considered polite nowadays to mention the wrath of God, sin, or repentance. God's words are called "hate" speech so that people will never mention them. That's like calling the cure for cancer evil. Is the cure evil, or is it the cancer? Obviously the cancer is evil, and the cancer is sin. Let's cut it out before it overcomes the whole body. (Matt. 5:29, Matt. 18:9, Mark 9:47)

aes7878 of CA 5:34PM July 06, 2009

Homosexuality is wrong not because it is more evil than bisexuality, sex with animals, incest even with consenting adult sons and daughtes and so on. Homosexuality is just the reasoble place to put up the STOP sign.If homosexuality becomes "normal" all other STOP signs beyond homosexuality will also be pushed down; without repression there can not be civilisation. It is for these reasons homosexuality must not be accepted as normal.
Of course if we allow homosexual unions (instead of confining homosexual activity to clndestine acts)it will become irrational not to allow polygamy or polyandria.
There no "rational" justification not to allow sex in the subway on the way to work, on the street or on the school yard.
The sad sad fact is human society needs control, moral and legal, on the type of sexual activity is appropiate and legal. Sex without strict moral will destroy society.
Let us look at theone set of beliefs that has outlasted all others and that has given us an unsurpassed moral compass; Judaism. There is no doubt Judais is much more strict on sexual activity outside marriuage than any other ancient culture; no homosexuality is traditional Judaism, no marriage between brothers and sisters, no religious prostitution. For Judaism sexual activity is an obligation, a saintly obligation, but inside marriage. It is perhaps here Christianity got a few things wrong, basically negating the nobility of the sexual act, looking at passion as some sort of sin, considering celibacy superior. This created sexually repressed peoples who, fed up with such irrationality, are burning all sexual controls and falling in a mistake that is the mirror image of repression; "anything goes in terms of sex as long as those engaged are willing" Even sex with animals is defended by more and more people (as long as the animal also seems to derive pleasure). Once homosexuality gains full acceptance you can be sure trhe goal post will be moved further. The whole crazy adventure will end only when our culture collapses in moral disarray and is taken over but by another group with sexual controls (could very well be the Chinese)

victor of NY 12:20PM June 16, 2009

JU AND AGAINST READ ROMANS CAP. ONE AND GET UNDERSTANDING GOD LOVES THE SINER BUT THEY MUST CHANGE THIR WAY OF LIFE JUST AS EVER ONE ELSE HAS TO FOR ALL HAVE SINED GO TO ACTS 2.38 YOU MUST REPENT OF YOUR SINS TO GOD NOT TO MAN BECAUSE MAN CAN NOT DO ANY THING FOR YOU BUT PRAY FOR YOU IT IS ALL ABOUT GOD READ YOUR BIBLE AND GET UNDERSTANDING.

RICHARD of NY 10:16AM May 30, 2009

Who cares what these religious leaders think? I'm a christian myself, but what RIGHT do these political leaders have to tell people how to live our lives? Our american ancestors left England for a reason, and now we're committing the same atrocity as the king was then? We're telling people how and what they should believe and why? It's disgusting how people have such a double standard when it comes to this issue. I 100% respect people who view homosexuality as a sin. I 100% look down on those people trying to dictate other's actions and lives. We have history lessons for a reason...

Zachary of SD 7:26PM May 22, 2009

I suspect that our clergy have been trained in fear. Not fear of God, but fear of losing their job, fear of losing their livelihood, fear of losing their status in the community.
One mainline minister I know recently spoke of clerical cowardice on precisely this issue of equal rights for GLBT persons, including marriage, and opportunities for ministry.
A North Texas Methodist Bishop recently publicly (in the newspaper) took a slap at one of his pastors for preaching a sermon on Gay is OK with God (to respond to a well publicized prominant local Baptist minister's sermon claiming the Gay is not OK with God.)
I recall reading in my Bible something to the effect that love casts out fear. Apparently it takes a powerful dose of love to overcome the fear deliberately inculcated in the clergy by their denominational leaders.
That seems to me to help explain why on social issue after moral issue, our ministers and churches function like the swinging lights on the tail end of the caboose.

Asinus Gravis of TX 12:30PM May 22, 2009

"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian doctrine." - George Washington, Treaty of Tripoli
"Strongly guarded is the separation between religion and government in the Constitution of the United States" - Madison
The words god and christianity do not appear in the Constitution. Your religious beliefs have no place in governing the rights of a SECULAR society.
"Lighthouses are more useful than churches." - Ben Franklin

Rob D of CA 11:47AM May 22, 2009

So-called Christians judging people. God obviously made gay people for a reason. It's just part of God's Plan.

Joseph of LA 10:14AM May 22, 2009

Kudos to New England, Iowa and DC.
It's time folks...
Cheers, Joe Mustich,
Justice of the Peace, Washington CT USA
http://justicesofthepeace.blogspot.com

Cornet Mustich of CT 5:22PM May 21, 2009