im moving out of the country if this passes, you guys can deal with it
not in america WHOO!of SD2:12PM April 27, 2012
@allen
Unfortunately, it's never really been about fooling us, but about wearing us down and spreading us thin. They know how much effort it takes to muster the mountain of public support it requires to counter even just one instance of utterly ridiculous legislation, let alone many.
Already I can see that the opposition to CISPA is far, far less vocal then its predecessor. Just take a look on slashdot, In comparison to the anti SOPA campaign, this legislation widens few eyes.
I hope I'm wrong!
nickof AK4:56PM April 15, 2012
The real problem with laws like these is that they ultimately become tools of political repression. It becomes too easy to demand information on political activists or others using their freedom of speech to voice their political descent. One needs to look no further than the story of Yahoo giving the real name of Chinese journalist & Yahoo Mail user Shi Tao to the Chinese Government to see how wrong headed the law is. As with this new law in congress, no warrant or subpoena was necessary. This married with children man was sent away for ten years and it ruined his life. Read "Consent of the Networked" for more horrifying stories related to this. Then call your representative and tell them to VOTE NO!
Fake Namesisof DC10:38AM April 14, 2012
There is nothing in CISPA stopping email-service-providers from revealing the contents of private emails.
CISPA makes it practically impossible to successfully sue an email-service-provider which does so.
After a journalist writes an article about wrongdoing by a corporation or by a gov't agency, the email-provider can share emails sent to the journalist and reveal the whistle-blower, claiming that evidence of wrongdoing may have been obtained through "unauthorized access."
Eric Jaffaof MN11:53PM April 13, 2012
Lol. Only ones and zeros.
Let them read your mail too, after all, its just ink and paper.
SCARY STUFF!
Any company that supports this has a simple motivation. This is as bad for the people as sopa... but it has 1 difference... they are less likely to get sued.
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As a programmer, i can see the parallels this draws to other speech... apparently those shiesty folk in dc think we will all be fooled.... lets hope not.
allenof FL5:17PM April 13, 2012
Lol. Only ones and zeros.
Let them read your mail too, after all, its just ink and paper.
SCARY STUFF!
Any company that supports this has a simple motivation. This is as bad for the people as sopa... but it has 1 difference... they are less likely to get sued.
.
As a programmer, i can see the parallels this draws to other speech... apparently those shiesty folk in dc think we will all be fooled.... lets hope not.
allenof FL5:14PM April 13, 2012
@ Elliot Geno My point exactly. The point is you and I know better and many others who are in some type of software/computer related field may know what binary is, but the problem lies with the general public. Do you really think a high school teacher knows what binary is? Or the computer illiterate? I'm generalizing, but you get my drift. These people who are in office know exactly how to skew the wording in a way that wouldn't alarm the general public. Elliot Geno "What a load of $hit!". Indeed.
Flintof CA11:47AM April 13, 2012
Honestly, the better answer would be encouraging citizens and businesses to secure their networks. The question I would like to ask is this:
Say we do pass this and peoples rights are violated but we manage to find out where cyber threats are coming from (*china* *cough*). How does that really help us? Are we going to invade them? Are we going to take a public stance in the international arena and ask these people to stop? Do you really think they would listen?
In reality, this policy may improve the overall security of the internet. However it is going to violate privacy rights and make our government exceedingly dangerous to its own citizens.
The onus of security is on the businesses that are being attacked. Frankly the government and business know this but are using this as excuse to seize greater power in the cyber arena.
Jay Lindlyof OR1:21AM April 13, 2012
@Flint "They are only interested in zeroes and ones" HA! What idiots believe that tripe?! Everything on your computer is nothing but zeros and ones its called binary people! Everything you send or receive is also zeroes and ones.
If all they want is zeroes and ones, then they want everything! What a load of $hit!
Elliot Genoof OH10:23PM April 12, 2012
This bill is another thinly veiled attempt to erode what is left of our personal freedoms. It has to be stopped.
Of course there is one fool-proof way to ensure no one can spy on you on the internet. TURN IT OFF!!! Don't use it. Take away the power!
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