Senate to Vote on Gays in Military

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WASHINGTON — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Wednesday he would demand a vote on letting gays serve openly in the military, a test of whether Republicans have dropped their objections to overturning "don't ask, don't tell" after a Pentagon study found it could be done without hurting military effectiveness.

The vote late in the day Wednesday would be procedural, paving the way for future debate if approved. Reid announced his intentions on the Senate floor.

Reid's call for a vote was considered a gamble by Democrats who have been pushing for months to overturn the 1993 law, which bans gays from revealing their sexual orientation. Republicans have blocked previous attempts to advance the bill, citing procedural grounds. It remained unclear Wednesday morning whether GOP concerns had been addressed.

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If the vote fails, the bill would be considered dead for the year. The repeal effort would then face an uphill battle come January when Republicans take control of the House and increase their numbers in the Senate.

Advocates for repeal said privately they thought Wednesday's vote was doomed to fail. Publicly, gay rights groups called on President Barack Obama to use his power to ensure the vote succeeded.

"The president set a course for repeal during his State of the Union address and this Senate vote may be the steepest hurdle of this 17-year fight," said Christopher Neff, deputy executive director of the Palm Center at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

"This is the president's vote and his leadership can make the difference today," Neff said in a statement e-mailed shortly after Reid's announcement.

Reid and the White House have said repealing the military ban on gays serving openly was a priority, but have not aggressively pushed the measure in Congress' lame-duck session. Instead, they have focused most of their efforts on striking a deal with Republicans on tax cuts and ratifying a nuclear arms treaty with Russia.

There are probably more than 60 senators willing to overturn "don't ask, don't tell," giving advocates a fillibuter-proof majority.

At least three Senate Republicans — Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Susan Collins of Maine and John Ensign of Nevada — have said they would support repeal. Conservative Democrats who were initially reluctant on the matter, including Sen. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, have also said they would vote to lift the ban.

But Republicans have said the Senate should consider tax cuts and government spending before moving to other issues. Even then, Republicans say, the bill would require more debate time than Reid has allowed.

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Who cares? You'd think these troops would have more to worry about than gay people in the military, like terrorists? Still, they stay true to their ignorant thoughts. I guess ignorance never takes a break, even in war.

Also, you can usually tell when someone is gay. So, repealing DADT will do nothing new. Just allow people to publicly state it.

Luckily, the older generation will soon die off and American will be on the right track. As previously supported by the last comment, most of the older, racist, homophobic generation supports crap policies like this. My son is gay, and I know its a not a choice. Hurry and repeal this already! Canada's been doing this since the 90's. We're so behind socially, we may as well be a 3rd world country.

Ceclia of SD 1:57PM December 11, 2010

"Pentagon study found it could be done without hurting military effectiveness."

mmh, really? Then why was this the reason for not lifting the ban during testimony from the Chiefs? Gates made the DoD report what his boss wanted it to report. 22 years in the military, I have seen this too frequently.

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Top US commanders on Friday sharply disagreed over lifting a ban on openly gay individuals serving in the military at a Senate hearing following a new Pentagon study.

The top US Army and Marine officers warned that repealing the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" prohibition could prove disruptive at a time of war as other generals backed the move, drawing different conclusions from the report.

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The chiefs of all four services said that they’d “follow the law” if Congress ultimately decides to repeal the law this year, as Gates and Admiral Michael Mullen want. But only Admiral Gary Roughead, the top Navy officer, actively endorsed overturning “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing Friday morning.

Marine General James Amos registered the most fervent opposition, saying “we should not implement repeal at this time” and reading out a message from a Marine in a combat unit worrying about potential sexual “competition” undermining the tightness of his team. Like Amos, Air Force General Norton Schwartz warned against placing “additional discretionary demands” upon a military fighting two wars, and recommended deferring repeal until 2012.

Army General George Casey was cagier, declining to oppose repeal, but also stressing the “risks” of adding “another level of stress” to the Army.

They will say whatever the master wants them to say so they can get their next star. Or they will retire and not care.

Retired of TX 2:21PM December 08, 2010

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