Senate to Vote Again on 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

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WASHINGTON — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Wednesday that he will call for a vote after Thanksgiving on legislation that would allow gays to serve openly in the military.

His announcement makes good on his pre-election promise to resurrect during the lame-duck session legislation that would repeal the 1993 law known as "don't ask, don't tell."

But it remains far from certain whether the legislation would have enough votes to pass. Several leading Republicans, including Sen. John McCain, have said they oppose lifting the ban.

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"We need to repeal this discriminatory policy so that any American who wants to defend our country can do so," Reid said in a statement.

The legislation would allow for the first time gay troops to acknowledge publicly their sexual orientation. However, the repeal of the current law would take effect after the president and his top military advisers certify that doing so would not hurt the military's ability to fight.

The bill was considered a deal struck earlier this year between more liberal Democrats eager to change the law and the White House, under pressure by the Pentagon to give it more time to determine how to repeal the law without causing any backlash.

The provision is tucked into a broader defense policy bill that includes such popular programs as a pay raise for the troops, which gay rights groups hoped would help its chances of passing.

But when the bill reached the floor in September — just weeks before the midterm elections — Republicans united in objecting to its debate on procedural grounds. Reid insisted that few amendments be considered in the interest of time; Republicans said restricting debate on such a wide-ranging policy bill was unfair.

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Jim Manley, a spokesman for Reid, said Wednesday that it had not been decided yet how many or which amendments might be considered for debate.

A wild card in the upcoming debate will be a Pentagon study on gays in the military that is likely to be released just days before the Senate vote. Last February, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he supports an eventual repeal of the law but wanted time to figure out how it should be done. He ordered a 10-month study due Dec. 1.

A draft of the 370-page assessment has found that the ban could be lifted with little harm and that most troops don't object to the change in personnel policy, according to officials familiar with its findings. But it also found that some troops had serious concerns with repealing the law.

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Military officials have warned that even scattered resistance to the change could pose logistical and discipline problems for field commanders.

Sen. Carl Levin, who has been leading the repeal push in the Senate, said he had asked Reid for a vote after the Pentagon study is released and he has a chance to hold hearings on the issue in the first few days of December. Levin, D-Mich., chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee.

A spokeswoman for McCain, R-Ariz., did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Gay rights groups see the lame-duck session as their best chance at repealing the law. The House has already passed the bill. But come January when the new Congress is seated, Republicans will take control the House and the Democratic majority in the Senate will be narrowed by six seats.

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OLD SALT of NC 8:57AM November 21, 2010

Don't ask don't tell should never have been an issue because it never should have been policy. Homosexuality is incompatible with military service. "What they do when they go home" is not the issue, because the military is not a 9-5 "go home" and stop being who you are at work type of occupation. It is a 24-7 obligation which routinely requires people to live with each other in close, community quarters, share community bathrooms, showers, etc. The major issue people like you, DeeToo of SC, miss, is that the military is not a normal job and there are hundreds of thousands of military members who signed up to serve in a military that does not allow the open service of homosexuals. "Women are in. Blacks are in" is a mute point and irrelevent because those are not choices. Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice. And even if it wasn't, there are plenty of psychological disorders that disqualify individuals.....narcolepsy, sleep-walking, tourettes, to name a few. The military routinely denies entry to people based on lifestyle choices that are incompatible with military service and/or are contrary to good order and discipline. You like to do drugs-out. You like to dye your hair green and wear face piercings-out. You like to have sex with people of your same gender-out. How is it that you or any one else feels it's ok to force a straight man/woman who signed up to serve in a military without gays to live with a gay man/woman? We don't put men and women in the same quarters/bathrooms/showers any more than we should put gays in quarters with straight individuals. The Marines speak up bc they're expeditionary--they operate in austere conditions with limited resources on a routine basis and integrating homosexuals is incompatible with that, the same reason women don't serve in Marine combat arms units. Good on the Marines for not being afraid to confront the PC status quo in Washington and not cater to future political interests. That's called courage. Comparing this to Europe and Israel is tired, media played drivel. Our culture is nothing like Europe or Israel and thank goodness for that. You forget that we fought a war to be different from Europe and a few more to save Europe from itself. Which military force is the backbone of NATO, always bailing everyone else out and why? The US, of course, bc we are much more selective and have much higher standards. Nice standard liberal regurgitation that everyone against the policy is a dinosaur, a hatemonger, or phobic, etc. Completely innacurate and ignorant. People make choices and some choices mean you don't get to do certain things. Homosexuality means you don't get to serve in the military. Those choices also mean others won't agree with you, your lifestyle or want to interact with you. You represent an inability to look beyond short-sighted special interests that cater to an extremely small part of our population, but have an adverse impact on the rest of our honorably serving members who also have rights.

Frank of CA 5:39PM November 18, 2010

This needs to change, now. The Democrats have a chance to make a real difference in the US's real position regarding discrimination. I hope they don't chicken out.

It is so hypocritical that we are willing to work with NATO troops who have total acceptance of soldiers being able to choose their partners without that impacting their military careers - but we don't offer those rights to our own troops.

Typical that the GOP uses an old kook like McCain to rant against this. He has old-fashioned notions about this. And he clearly does not value the rights offered in our constitution is he continues to fight this. Also - the head of the Marine Corps is predictably against it - but he too is a dinosaur.

The Israeli army has Gays - and no one calls them wimps. It says a lot about American males that they feel so threatened by Gays. Women could care less. It's unreasonable to ask old men with old ideas to support a non-discriminatory military. Blacks are in. Women are in. The military didn't blow up or keel over. It won't with Gays either. Discipline is strict and should remain so.

The key is whether these people ho are Gay also qualify for military service. If they meet the physical, mental and emotional requirements to be employed there, who cares what they do at home?????

The Democrats need to LEAD. The GOP/Tea P's are full of hate and discrimination, or too fearful of their extreme right-wing constituents (some who shoot gay people or people who perform abortions), so they are not likely to ever fix this. Even the Supreme Court is no longer able to stand for the constitution - instead it is now politicized and stands for corporate America and reactionary rights positions. That is the joke - The GOP who ranted for years about "activist" judges", and now theirs are the most activist ever....

Do it Harry!!!!! Fix discrimination.....

DeeToo of SC 1:09PM November 18, 2010

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