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10 Things You Didn't Know About the Copenhagen Climate Change Summit

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uzair 4:08AM December 09, 2010

It’s all about the money stupid!
It's basic economics really. Before an economy will be willing to accept a new technology the tradeoff has to be worth it. That means the price of the existing technology has to exceed the price of the new and, in this case, "cleaner" technology.
We are watching our government artificially increase the price of our existing fuel with cap and trade type taxes. Sold as taxing the bad companies, we all know it is you and I that will be paying the price in the end. Obama already told us that our power bill will go up. Now we are talking about sending $100 mil to other countries on top of even more taxes and regulation yet to come.
Why? Simple. The price of our current fuel has to outpace the cost of the clean alternative for us to make a change. It's basic economics.
Obama promised change. It's the cost of that change that was not discussed. Face it, the masses want to fear things. People want to be protected. Fear drives behavior every day! Show someone something they fear and then offer change. History shows us over and over again that it is a sure way to gain power. The greatest opportunities are buried inside of a crisis. People hand over everything to be rescued from something they fear, even their lives. We elected Obama.
The cause of our fear? A science on climate that claims we are on the brink of disaster with no empirical data. The classic fear tactic. In fact, the only raw data was destroyed and cannot be duplicated. A good case can be made that the scientists will financially benefit and have manipulated much of the data. Russia made this claim in Copenhagen. When asked, the scientists resist and refuse peer review on their work. Significantly strange for real science. Bad software programming omits temperature data making the results undependable - reported by BBC. The scientist Al Gore quoted to cause much of the alarm even stood up and denied the quote.
I cannot bet billions $$ on a science that claims the sun does not play a factor in global warming. This was written in a Copenhagen publication debunking climate change myths.
Ok, The Earth has warmed since the ice age. But then, humans didn't cause that.
Isn't it just flat out pride to believe that humans have the ability to control the temperature of the earth? I mean, it changed before humans existed. Nature causes huge amounts of co2 naturally and humans have only been on the Earth for an insignificant time as compared to the History of the Earth. Our co2 creating years: even much less time there. We can really destroy the whole atmosphere in less than 200 years? I don’t think so. The Earth is billions of years old and will recover no matter what we do. The Earth will be here long after we destroy each other.
It's all about power and the here and now.
It's all about the money.

Jeff Davis of FL 9:19PM January 05, 2010

Sure, the world has been warming and cooling for it's entire existence. The fact that some parts are cooling is well predicted within the models that have been provided. Warm or cold, who gives a rats *ss. I look out my windshield in the morning and see smog...lots of it. I see high pollution advisories all frickin' summer. Does it look healthy to breathe? Is the source of this smog mother nature, or the millions of vehicles on the road, along with fossil fuel burning power plants? People who claim that CO2 exists naturally, or that it is safe because you carbonate your beverage with it. I ask you, if you put on scuba gear with tanks filled with CO2 vs. 02, will you survive? Is it natural for our vehicles and power plants to chemically convert breathable air into a noxtious exhaust?
Politics aside, do we need to continue to be 100% dependant on a power grid that hasn't been updated in decades? Do we need to continue to feed and house those that wish us all dead with the money we spend to buy their oil...or should we send them all back to the economic stone age by ceasing to be the majority of their income? Do I love to drive my 69 Z28? Yes. Do I need to drive it daily as a commuter? Heck no. It doesn't even make economic sense to do so. So, why not regulate auto manufacturers into creating more fuel economical cars? Why not build 2 solar plants that will provide decades of fuel free energy rather than building or retrofitting a single "clean coal" plant? Think coal can really be that clean? Please throw some in your fire place and make sure to shut your flue. Let me know how clean that was after an overnight burn.
Point is, these initiatives are being brought forth to discourage the continuation of doing things the "cheap" way, or the way that continues to line the pockets of those that already make billions a year in profits. It forces them to stop doing that which damages the environment, makes air bad to breathe, and will ultimately help ween us off of the oil and coal fields towards something that won't eventually run out and send us all back to the stone age.....or are all of the scientists (including those that work for oil companies) that have gone on record to say that we're already closing in on the end of prediction a bunch of liars and crack pots too?
I for one am with the green initiative. It's the best way to ensure I'll be able to drive my Camaro on weekends for the rest of my life...rather than having to push it around, or let it rot in my garage because there's no fuel to put in it.

Concerned B. Myname of AZ 7:44PM January 04, 2010

The environment is God given and we as those who has been given the responsibility to protect it, let us not invite our conflict of interest into the same. As like the other day I read over the internet that a scientist coming up with misleading information about global warming. However I have no right to negate what he/she said over the same.But as older scientist you should not be compromised for gain of superpowers and let the developing countries suffer for the mistakes committed by them. Remember, that is Acamedic dishonest and you are sending the whole World in a serious conflict which might result into third world war. Let the developed states be warned that this Explosion over the CO2 might soon threaten their superiority. Allow me recall what Obama during His winning speech "those who want peace we support you and those who will tear the world apart we will defeat you" let's be careful on Environmet. otherwise We will down together.

Ombeo Evans 5:21AM January 01, 2010

Thank you US News for this forum. I would like to change the subject to Global Cooling. Bear with me here.
The Earth will cool, Mars did. We have a core here of liquid iron. Mars once had that, now its gone, ours will be gone some day. Over millions of years, the currents of iron change, and so does the protective layer over the earth of a magnetic shield from the suns harmful rays.
Scientists say, we are overdue for the change. The flowing currents cause a magnetic shield over the earth that deflects alot of bad stuff from the sun. Scientists aren't sure how long the shift will take, it could be days or years. Its shifted many times over the history of the earth. When it occurs, you will see northern lights in Dallas, and exposure to sunlight will be very harmful. Its not exactly the sea rising 19 inches, but its close. It could cause cancers and dna mutations to new borns.
Your compass won't work either.

Bobby Myers of TX 11:45PM December 31, 2009

Its getting hard to find good data on this. Wikipedia once published an article about co2 levels over millions of years, data captured from core drilling in ice. It seems the earth once had an abundance of co2. The article is now gone from that web site.
Nasa and that university in England have yet to release data from the Freedom of Information Act both countries have.
Co2 is such a rare gas, water vapor is also a greenhouse gas. A scientist at MIT recently submitted a paper explaining why co2 can't cause global warming. I am having trouble finding that article.
I am convinced this is something political, and has no basis in fact. And in the long run, will affect the reputation of those involved.

Bobby Myers of TX 11:08PM December 31, 2009

J couldn't be more wrong. We are living better than humanity ever has. The only thing that can bring this country to its knees is goverment regulation. The government caused the banking failures with improper regulation. Thats the problem with trying to invent a regulated free market system, the government would be in charge of that. The best system is one which uses human flaws (greed) to accomplish great things instead of trying to force people against their will. Thats capitalism. It has lifted the boats of most nations. Ask the Chinese, the Japanese, the Mexicans, the europeans... most of the world benefits from American consumption.
Its entry level workers who make poor wages, I did when I was entry level. If a person doesn't like the wage they earn, they need to look around. Not ask for wealth redistribution by government regulation.
This country is far from being a has been, and I look forward to the nifty changes capitalists will create.

Bobby Myers of TX 10:43PM December 31, 2009

Add it up people! Think about the control and taxes these Global warming leaders want to shackle us with. Goverment = wasteful spending. CO2(Carbon Dioxide)[Aka. Greenhouse gas], is produced by all living things both naturally and by process. It is not poisonous and is needed for plant life. It is used for sodas and seltzers, propellants, Dry Ice and many many other things. The "Greenhausers" should focus on reducing pollution and alternative energy resources we can use.

CraigNAZ of AZ 9:28PM December 30, 2009

health care is not good for the country

lucille pacchia of NJ 8:30PM December 29, 2009

America is over just like all of the great empires before us, Mankind has proven over and over again that our human character is too flawed to govern our affairs.Put your head between your legs and kiss your U.S. ass goodbye. Capitalism and socialism doesn't work because everyone is too greedy. We could invent a workable regulated free market system but always someone wants to corrupt the system and what is good for the majority. democrats want to control our lives and our money Republicans want those who labor to do it for slave wages. The Republicans think it's fair that people working on the floors of the factories and in the shops and retail businesses etc should work for nothing have no benefits or realize the American dream. While on the other hand it's very appropriate for CEO's to earn hundreds of millions of dollars. Many times after causing their companies to fail.Government removed reasonable regulations from our financial institutions after we had proven they were needed way back in the twenties.Greed,Greed Greed It's over!

J Higgins of OH 10:51PM December 26, 2009