California Justices Hear Arguments in Same-Sex Marriage Case

Hundreds of demonstrators filled the plaza outside the state Supreme Court

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Oscar Riveiro joins other people during a rally in front of the California Supreme Court Building after arguments were heard for and against Proposition 8 March 5, 2009 in San Francisco, California.

Oscar Riveiro joins other people during a rally in front of the California Supreme Court Building after arguments were heard for and against Proposition 8.

People rally in front of the California Supreme Court Building as arguments are heard for and against Proposition 8 on March 5, 2009 in San Francisco, California.

People rally in front of the California Supreme Court Building as arguments are heard for and against Proposition 8.

SAN FRANCISCO—As the justices filed into the California Supreme Court here today to hear arguments on the legality of Proposition 8, the voter-approved initiative that eliminated same-sex marriage in this state, it felt like déjà vu all over again.

Only a year ago, in the same courtroom, the same court found a law with wording similar to Prop 8 unconstitutional, saying gays and lesbians had the same fundamental right to marry that straight people do and that denying them that right violated the state's equal-protection laws. The landmark ruling was hailed in some quarters as a historic victory—and condemned in others as a case of unbridled judicial activism. Six months after the decision, after 18,000 same-sex marriages had been conducted across the state, 52 percent of voters approved Proposition 8, eliminating gays' right to marry by amending the Constitution with a simple majority vote.

The outcome seemed to catch many gay rights advocates flat-footed. Amid a storm of protests in the fall, it left only two states, Massachusetts and Connecticut, where gay marriage is legal, while 30 others, including California, now have constitutional amendments defining marriage as only between a man and a woman.

Supporters of same-sex marriage say they are still making progress in a handful of other states. Lawmakers in Hawaii, the first state to amend its constitution to ban gay marriage more than a decade ago, are considering legislation that would allow gay couples to form civil unions. Bills legalizing same-sex marriage are likely to be introduced in five northeastern states over the next year, including New Jersey and New York. A gay rights group also filed suit in federal court this week, demanding equal access to federal benefits like Social Security payments for married same-sex couples—a first step toward a potential U.S. Supreme Court case.

Still, as hundreds of demonstrators filled the plaza outside the courthouse here today, chanting into megaphones and waving rainbow flags, it was clear that California remains the most visible—and, with 1 out of every 6 same-sex couples in the country living here, perhaps the most important—battleground in the fight over gay marriage. "The vote in November didn't slow the process down anywhere in the country; if anything, it accelerated it," says Brad Sears, executive director of the sexual orientation law institute at UCLA. But because of California's size—not to mention its symbolism—legalizing same-sex marriage here would put enormous pressure on the courts and Congress to push for a national resolution. "A decision to overturn Prop 8," says Sears, "would be a game-changer nationally."

Inside the courtroom, the justices listened to oral arguments today on three lawsuits filed against Proposition 8 in the fall, wrestling with many of the same legal issues they dealt with last year. Opponents of same-sex marriage, represented by Kenneth Starr, the onetime Clinton-era prosecutor who is serving as the lead attorney defending the new law, insisted the court had no choice but to bow to the will of the majority. "The people have the raw power to define rights," Starr, resplendent in a pink tie, told the justices. "I know there is an enormous amount of humanity and emotion involved in this," he said, "but the people are sovereign.... As long as it is in fact clear to the people what they're voting on, we govern ourselves and we must govern ourselves."

Supporters of same-sex marriage, meanwhile, responded that the initiative, just like the law the court rejected last year, is discriminatory and unconstitutional on its face. "What Proposition 8 does is establish a constitutional precedent that a majority can take away the rights of a group based on a characteristic that has no relevance to their participation in society," Shannon Minter, the legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, told the justices. "Our government is based on the principle not just of majority rule but an equally important principle that the majority must respect the rights of the minority—that the check on the majority is just as important as majority rule." Because the justices found last year that gays and lesbians had a fundamental right to marry, Minter said, it would be unprecedented for the same court to allow a simple majority to take that right away.

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I believe that your comment is lacking a citation of some sort. When you say "It's an image WE don't want associated with America." who are you speaking of? Who is this "we"? I want the image of freedom to be associated with America. I want the image of equality to be associated with America. Having said this, please speak for yourself. "We" is a very strong word to use with such a weak statement.

Elana Joy of CA 6:46PM September 04, 2009

JOhn Eulyle : "Being gay is a choice. All of Love is optional and Gay marriages are inproductive. It's unatural an, I apologize, but undesired as a majority for Americans. It's an image we don't want associated with America."

These are our brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces, uncles, aunts, parents, grandparents and children. These are Americans you are slandering. Who cares what the majority of American's think? This isn't a majority issue. This is an issue of reality. People are programmed differently for reasons we do not and cannot understand. The ideal you have in your mind is only that, and has no room for accommodation of a difference of perspective, a perspective that if you were secure in your own life and identity, wouldn't threaten you in the least. It's not an embarrassment to the nation, it's a reality of the diversity of human beings. Just because you don't understand it or agree with it doesn't makej wrong and certainly doesn't make it go away. Gay people are PEOPLE. They are humans deserving of the same love and understanding you would give a member of your own family. Shame on you for posting such a hateful and divisive comment.

LegalEase of CA 8:35PM May 26, 2009

First off...based on your comments I am pretty sure that you have never actually faced same-gender attraction because otherwise you wouldn't say being gay is a choice. Homosexuality is not exactly the first choice I would make for myself in a society so intensely homophobic as ours---just a crazy thought.

Second---Productivity of a marriage cannot be solely measured by procreation if that were the case then infertile heterosexuals should also be barred from the blessing of matrimony.

And lastly--As for being an undersirable association with America???? I personally would prefer to not be viewed as a nation of narrow-minded, self-indulgent, self-righteous bigots, but I guess if we uphold prop 8 and other similar initiatives, amendments, and legislation the world will inevitably draw its own conclusions on the matter.

Mike of UT 4:14AM May 08, 2009

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