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jerry brown , : as atterney general , why do you just stand around and do nothing, while that so called governer BLACK MAILS OUR REPS,, ? ? is it not against the law ? ? . Am looking forward to an answer ,. you know none of our elected reps do our will. Once elected they do as they please . But some of us are taking notes . moses baldizan

moses baldizan of CA 4:06PM October 12, 2009

Willie, I don't think you even understand what I'm saying.

I am not a spokesperson for the gay rights movement. And I am not a cheerleader for Bishop Robinson.

Here's a concept for ya Willie: different people believe different things.

Different people also understand God's word differently and have different views on what faith is.

Except there is a problem: YOU dismiss everyone who does not believe like you do. How can you not see how egotistical and wrong that is?

I ask you again:

Why can't you practice your faith your way and let others practice their faith their way? Why is that not enough for you? Why do you insist on not only judging others but taking away their rights based on your religion?

Do you judge everyone who doesn't have faith exactly like yours or only gay people? And those other folks who have faith different from yours: do you want to take away their rights too? Or is your discrimination just reserved for gay people?

Willie, you go one and on about what you believe. THAT'S FINE. More power to you. But my equality is not dependent on your approval. I don't care about your approval or what you think of me. Get over yourself.

Joyce of CA 4:19PM January 20, 2009

Matthew 15:10 & 11--One last point concerning "GOOD" Leadership in every Christian Church--before this whole article is to be deleted due to it causing friction in our nearly 45 year MARRIAGE...But as C.F.U.S.A's custom is; you will have to define "LEADERSHIP" First of all in a dictionary as being GOOD or BAD...It should never again have taken anyone as America's future Leader's nearly "ANYTIME" to find that his or her "MENTOR" was or still is, Preaching and Teaching "A" False Gospel. A simple MATTER-OF-FACT truth, about being an effective LEADER has been "RIGHT" there in front of our very own Faithful Mind's Eye all of our past 2000 A.D. years in our Recording of Mankind's History's of time--Matthew 15:12-20. Now hasn't it??????--? Our Friends, Brethren, and Loyal Country MEN & Women--of America!!! AMEN!!!

Willie Jr. & Sherie Proulx of NH 10:43AM January 18, 2009

Where your mouth is? You certainly aren't speaking from a wholesome HEART! What is it that you don't understand about our CHRISTIAN FAITH? Except that for you it's a fantasy story about this "MAN" who decided that he'd be agonizingly tortured on his CROSS for his own "GOOD?" You defend MR. Robinson--you commend him for his own Delusional Religious Views (Along with the many, many, as you believe, who'd admire him for how brave he is, for accepting his push, by only a misled and misguided FEW; as a wonderful, a truly FAITHFUL BISHOP! Their not the many millions, that reject believing him as their own kind of real Christian--LEADER). What a Real Christian Family Leader should actually be as representatives of Christ, within any Church that believes it's following the actual teachings of Christ Jesus as the "ULTIMATE WAY" of saving "ALL OF OUR HUMAN SOULS?" You are looking at MR. Robinson as yours' and those who'd like to believe like you, as some sort of condoning your same-sex life-style, Savior! Your Savior of--GOD only knows what--it can't be your, in anyway, shape, or form, your CHRISTIAN SOUL'S! Because that's what having REAL FAITH through CHRIST SPIRIT 1st of all as a Kingdom of GOD Citizen, in our Christendom is all about--Salvaging all Spiritual Souls. It's sad if you haven't heard it said some time or another--but in any case, if you haven't:It's our own Spiritual Soul that Lives for an Eternity in Heaven, or it'll be condemned to an Eternal Hell. Strangely enough, by our living A PERSONAL life-style on our Created Earth, religiously! It's in the way we've CHOSEN to live it RIGHTLY as only Christ's Character is our mime for living it good, a Christian's Life-style as our 1st example! But so too, are we free to live it INTROSPECTIVELY in the WRONG manner. Albeit when we're abusing our corruptible FLESH & BLOOD Physical Bodies--unconditionally, detrimentally too, not only is it our Physical Health but also it becomes harmful to our Mental Health. On that note Joyce! It's in the way we think, & reason, about something--especially anything that's in HUMANITY'S known past history as it was in our Culture bad for us in our Civilized Society--When we insist that it's time to condone that senseless kind of human behavior, as ones own sense of equality, ones OWN CIVIL RIGHT we have a Crucial Social issue. A point about EGO (SELF-ESTEEM)! If you're to believe that I'm an only PERSON that's to be practicing, my type of CHRISTIAN FAITH? Then what kind of FAITH in anything, or anybody, as a matter of fact, are you to be professing? Why aren't you thinking of yourself as the defensive spokesperson of sorts for your Gay Rights Community? What kind of selfish egotistical educable human being are you? When you-yourself have chosen to literally prove something already known down through-out Mankind's History as ULTIMATELY WRONG as your ABSOLUTE RIGHT! My "FAITH" is not dependent on judging those who'd disagree, or are different--yours is!!

Wilfred (Willie) Proulx Jr. of NH 6:50PM January 17, 2009

Now I see. Because I see things differently than you that means I am "missing the whole concept of Christianity." Boy, that is some ego you have.

And because Bishop Robinson does not meet with your personal approval that means he is wrong. Just some bad person trying to push a "selfish style of religion."

What about the many, many Episcopalians who find Bishop Robinson to be a wonderful faith leader? Who love and adore him and want him to be their bishop? (He didn't get there by accident.) Are they all wrong too?

Why does your faith depend on you judging those who disagree or are different than you?

So typical of your type of Christians: what they believe is right is ok, and what anyone else believes or the way anyone else practices their faith...is wrong.

Whatever Willie!

Why can't you practice your faith your way and let others practice their faith their own way? Why is that not enough?

Joyce of CA 10:21AM January 15, 2009

Sorry Joyce but again you totally are missing the whole concept of Christianity. It has nothing to do with anything that can be seen or heard. In one word it all boils down to "FAITH" that is what Christ Jesus is the author of. Not anything we believe that we can vision in our World as Religion or Spirituality in fact! It's our own personal FAITH that matters. Without it, it's impossible to please God with the life that we live on our Created Planet Earth! So don't be so noble Sister you'd never believe what this man who thinks himself to be a fully ordained "Christian Bishop!" You'd never understand the damage he has done in this--my home town area. Trying to instill his concept of some selfish style of Religion ever since being pushed to the top by some GOD only knows ignorant liberality, in November of 2003 as my major adversary. My "JUDGEMENT" of him you unfairly accuse me of! It's him, it's he that's been trying so desparately undercover, never coming face to face with me. It's he-he's been trying to let the State of N.H. do his handy work for him. Like making me out to be some kind of a "WACKO NUTBALL" especially ever since he was asked politely to step-down long before our battle got heated to this point. He & his partner has caused an international movement to the extreme far left! Promoting his homosexuality as some kind of a naturalistic Christian evolution, to be practiced in all Christian Churches, sometime in the future, if we'd not nip in the bud ASAP. He'd love to have me locked-up and locked-out, put away for-ever--so that he'd have a clearer path to a victory beginning in my home State of N.H! CFUSA'S work & website serves as solid proof that having a FULL-TIME-FAITH in Christ Jesus as my Lord & Savior has kept me safe from him regardless of all his Worldly kind of prayers delivered-up ever since he became in his ignorance, oblivious to what REAL HONEST CHRISTIANITY IS! You too even, are setting him apart though he'd not teach & preach the Full Christian Gospel Message! You've placed him in that same type of a crowd that left that most passionate of all of any Crucifixion scenes. Yes those that beat on their breast believing they had killed the messenger so also did they think they'd killed his message. Well folks I "HATE" to burst your bubble because it wasn't our Lord and Master that Preached or Taught us Christianity!It was those who came after him and mixed their awesome & most powerful Christ-like FAITH together with it. Those in the very first century A.D. they who put his message into action. So unlike many of us who are still today professing by some kind of an outwards religious feeling to be truly Born-Again. But sadly are not because they are void and empty. Lacking in their physical body the inner changes needed within their own mind, heart, & soul, that's a true reflection of Christ's Spirituality! In essence it's a Divine Nature that Christ imparts within us as Human Souls that's our equalizing, force!

Wilfred (Willie) Proulx Jr. of NH 1:39AM January 15, 2009

A few points:

1. I never said your last post was directed at me; I said I didn't understand it.

2. You keep saying I call names to anyone who disagrees with me. Absolutely NOT true. I call names to anyone who tries to push me down simply for being who I am. So don't get high and mighty that I have no spirituality because that's bull. ANd as soon as you treat me as your equal I won't call you names anymore regardless of your beliefs.

3. You are doing exactly what you accuse me of doing, when you judge the gay bishop because he does not see the world or religion or spirituality the same as you do.

Joyce of CA 8:00PM January 14, 2009

Read it again & maybe, hopefully, you'd find that it was directed more-so to those mixed-up, all those many Christians who're mixed-up; those with more education in SIMPLE Science, Religion, & Politics. But worse than that some persons who've interwoven each of those 3 unhealthy UN-SPIRITUAL essences into a "FAITH" that's detrimental with their I know it all myself attitude. I know better how to fix my World. To this end I PRAY! They believe that they're the end time numerologist. They surely have put it altogether. Except for being able to count 3 days correctly. Some discrimate in how they use their Highly Holy Offices to push their own agenda whether it be for good or bad reasons! Point is a Vally Newspaper Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 A.D. in an article. N.H. BISHOP & current live-in partner Mark Andrew or Robinson? Hard to figure which part one is to be playing in a same-sex Marriage! After all isn't it customary in a Legal Traditional Marriage for the wife in a Marraige relationship to take on her Husbands last name. Oh & how-about a Denominational Christian Chruch's guide lines, so-to-speak, for those holding that high office as BISHOP (American definition, High Clergyman, A definition Religious(A SPIRITUALLY Divine) official?)--Biblical defining as is in accordance with St.Paul's concept, his only 1 (1 Timothy 3:1-7 most especially line 2--where it is written one Wife!) Mr Robinson says he'll be standing on what he's concidering himself to be "HOLY GROUND!" His says he wants to be "the good bishop, not the gay bishop, even though he's sought-out a visible role as a gay rights activist (he won't rely on just the BIBLE) nor will his message, his Prayer be ESPECIALLY Christian. But in that same interview he says he wants to get "HIS POINT" in "HIS PRAYER" across to everyone--all-the-while also leading "HIS" congregations. But remember this Joyce, remember name calling Sub--Warrior vile & filthy, along with the many other heartless judgements by you of me & anyone in fact who'd disagree with you on this Crucial Socially Virtuous Issue. My comment was written specifically in defense of myself against the many other's you've dragged down to your level of thinking & resoning. That Sis is a reflection on your own spiteful Character. Your problem being you're lacking in SPIRITUALITY period! Even worst than all my enemies, as MR. V. GENE ROBINSON is, & has been since he opened a door for HIS own agendas' 4 walled Church--on the darkest of all N.H. days. So dark it became for us, so violent were the tremors felt in all of Christendom when he began to bring it down, touting in a way just another, albeit an "ALTERVATIVE" life-style, connecting it to Christianity--working against us,(CFUSA)in our neighborhood. There's a story in scripture that describes his kind of a mistrustful Faith Prayer, a sheer mismanagement of it, an haphazard approach to it, not to be benefical--to all person's on the receiving end of a propagandist style of PRAYER!(MK 9:17&18,26-29)

Wilfred (Willie) Proulx Jr. of NH 7:48PM January 14, 2009

I don't even understand what you're saying now, Willie.

Joyce of CA 7:47PM January 12, 2009

Especially when mixing-up within your "BLOGS" Politics, Religion and Science--(Sub-Warrior)??? But it takes only very little "FAITH" (SISTER---I---BELIEVE) to be victorious in our realization that any "ALTERNATIVE" to anything simular to a Christian Life-Style is Totally Socially Wrong...As proof I'd like to submit that our counting to 3 is our "ULTIMATE DEFENSIVE ANSWER!" But just like many people, you too, may still be blinded to it as our sheer reality. Why did you feel like you had to out-do so-to-speak, my last "BLOG" in your usage of your Education of Science as your weaponry...Isn't it a "DARN" shame that in every instance, whether it be by those who profess to be Politicians, Scientist, worst of all even so many of our World's Relionist! Isn't it so "DARN" ironic that they, all of them have been able to "SQUEEZE" three whole "Complete" days, nearly all of 72 hours of 24/7 time into Friday, Saturday, and Sunday as we have named them and still be able to come up with a Sunday Morning Resurrection of our Lord. Even more-so is it some "CRYING SHAME" that Friday is and has been as always, the sixth day of our 7 day ordinary week, Saturday being the seventh! And oh yes Sunday has always been known as the first...It just doesn't figure now does it! What Dr. Luke as I like to think of him, told us in his Gospel (Luke 23:54-56) about "A" fast approching Sabbath, to be beginning...Neither does it figure that the Women who were present at Messiah's Crucifixion and Burial, could go home to Galilee; and then later return in such a short time from Jerusalem to Galilee & then back to Jerusalem on any given 7th or any other Sabbath Day, in order to anoint his body with their perfumes and spices. Even if it were to be the regular weekly 7th day "ONE" in "FACT" then Christ Jesus was even more of an "IMPERFECT LIAR!" Or could it just have been that he was so Religiously un-educated, as many of the Pharisee's thought of him, as being. That he didn't, really think before he spoke, like many today still are in the habit of doing. Did they think he didn't know in "FACT" that the pagan celebration of EASTER actually would have begun on that following Sunday at six o-clock PM exactly 3 full days after our Passover Passed! After all 3 must've meant for him, an end to his own Earthly Life as he-himself had known it to be for 33 yrs...HUMM--LET'S SEE!!! Friday, Saturday, Sunday "YEP" that's right 3 days and 3 nights "A-YUP?" NOT!!! Blog---Blog---Blog that's all folks, and I'd suppose if you'd believe that one? Then Jonah was sallowed-up, and taken out to sea by a big "FISH!" Never did he, ever, no-never to be returned, to "SAVE" NIVEVEH could he have??? Christ Jesus could have never used him, Jonah's life, as an example of his own! (John 4:38) Better yet Matthew and Luke's Gospel under the written heading of the "SIGN OF JONAH!" Then finally as an assurance as written in Mark's copy-cat Gospel, as many Religionist believe it to be in Mark 9:31... Amen!!!

Wilfred (Willie) Proulx Jr. of NH 4:37PM January 12, 2009

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