it is a good realization but a cording to my experience in my vocation to religious life is all about business and full of politics. if one has no professional a cording to the Congregational need you have no vocation. so different from Jesus' way he called tax collectors and fishermen and and all had vocation.He maintained all to the end.
what is happening to day? people are making GOD' will to there will. who have granted you a divine power to real declare that has no vocation in religious life?
I HAD BEEN RELIGIOUS IN THE FRANCISCAN SISTERS OF THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION OF THE HOLY MOTHER OF GOD (SFIC)FOR 5 YEARS IN MY SIMPLE PROFESSION OF VOWS SINCE 2004 DEC,8 TO 2009 NOV. 8, WITH NO GOOD REASON I WAS TOLD I HAVE NO VOCATION TO BE A SISTER. NEXT THING WAS BACK UP GO HOME,DURING THIS TIME I WAS PURSUING MY IN TANGAZA COLLEGE THE CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY OF EASTERN AFRCA. IN NAIROBI KENYA A DEPLOMA IN SCIENCE IN HUMAN DEVELOPMENT. THE CONGREGATION STOPED PAYING MY COLLEGE FEE AND UP KEEP. ALL THIS HAS BEEN MY STRUGGLE HOW TO GET BACK TO THE COLLEGE. I COULD NOT MAKE IT BY MYSELF. MY PARENTS ARE PEASANT FARMER .I HAVE TRIED TO RAISE FUNDS THOUGH I DID NOT MEET THE TARGET OF MY COLLEGE FEE TO COME BACK TO THE COLLEGE.
PER SEMESTER I AM NEEDED TO PAY 95,000 KENYAN MONEY. MY DREAMS ARE CUT SHORT. IF FUNDS AVAILS FOR ME I WILL WISH TO FINISH BACHELOR OF ART(BA)
I AM STILL LOOKING FOR WELL WISHES TO SUPPORT ME.
MY STUDIES HAVE COST MY VOCATION. FOR ME I FEEL I HAVE VOCATION AND AFTER MY STUDIES I WISH TO SERVE GOD AS A RELIGIOUS SISTER.IN HIS POOR PEOPLE.
CURRENTLY I AM LOOKING FOR WELL WISHERS AND ALSO AT THE LOOKING FOR THE CONGREGATION THAT IS READY TO ADMITTE SOME ONE WHO HAS BEEN DISMISSED FROM ANOTHER CONGREGATION. BESIDE THAT I WISH TO JOIN HAND TOGETHER WITH WOMEN OF THE SAME EXPERIENCE AND GROW AS A CONGREGATION TO BRING HOPE TO LADIES AND PEOPLE IN THE SOCIETY.
I AM FROM KURIA DISTRICT,KEHANCHA PARISH, HOMABAY DIOCESE ARCH DIOCESE OF KISUMU .KENYA EASTERN AFRICA
ADVISE CONGREGATIONS THAT IF THEY WANT MORE VOCATION. THEY SHOULD LET VOCATION BE VOCATION NOT BUSINESS AND POLITICS.
GOD CALLS AND GRANT GRACE NOT ACCORDING TO MAN .
MARTHA ROBI NGERA4:49AM October 09, 2010
it is a good realization but a cording to my experience in my vocation to religious life is all about business and full of politics. if one has no professional a cording to the Congregational need you have no vocation. so different from Jesus' way he called tax collectors and fishermen and and all had vocation.He maintained all to the end.
what is happening to day? people are making GOD' will to there will. who have granted you a divine power to real declare that has no vocation in religious life?
I HAD BEEN RELIGIOUS IN THE FRANCISCAN SISTERS OF THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION OF THE HOLY MOTHER OF GOD (SFIC)FOR 5 YEARS IN MY SIMPLE PROFESSION OF VOWS SINCE 2004 DEC,8 TO 2009 NOV. 8, WITH NO GOOD REASON I WAS TOLD I HAVE NO VOCATION TO BE A SISTER. NEXT THING WAS BACK UP GO HOME,DURING THIS TIME I WAS PURSUING MY IN TANGAZA COLLEGE THE CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY OF EASTERN AFRCA. IN NAIROBI KENYA A DEPLOMA IN SCIENCE IN HUMAN DEVELOPMENT. THE CONGREGATION STOPED PAYING MY COLLEGE FEE AND UP KEEP. ALL THIS HAS BEEN MY STRUGGLE HOW TO GET BACK TO THE COLLEGE. I COULD NOT MAKE IT BY MYSELF. MY PARENTS ARE PEASANT FARMER .I HAVE TRIED TO RAISE FUNDS THOUGH I DID NOT MEET THE TARGET OF MY COLLEGE FEE TO COME BACK TO THE COLLEGE.
PER SEMESTER I AM NEEDED TO PAY 95,000 KENYAN MONEY. MY DREAMS ARE CUT SHORT. IF FUNDS AVAILS FOR ME I WILL WISH TO FINISH BACHELOR OF ART(BA)
I AM STILL LOOKING FOR WELL WISHES TO SUPPORT ME.
MY STUDIES HAVE COST MY VOCATION. FOR ME I FEEL I HAVE VOCATION AND AFTER MY STUDIES I WISH TO SERVE GOD AS A RELIGIOUS SISTER.IN HIS POOR PEOPLE.
CURRENTLY I AM LOOKING FOR WELL WISHERS AND ALSO AT THE LOOKING FOR THE CONGREGATION THAT IS READY TO ADMITTE SOME ONE WHO HAS BEEN DISMISSED FROM ANOTHER CONGREGATION. BESIDE THAT I WISH TO JOIN HAND TOGETHER WITH WOMEN OF THE SAME EXPERIENCE AND GROW AS A CONGREGATION TO BRING HOPE TO LADIES AND PEOPLE IN THE SOCIETY.
I AM FROM KURIA DISTRICT,KEHANCHA PARISH, HOMABAY DIOCESE ARCH DIOCESE OF KISUMU .KENYA EASTERN AFRICA
ADVISE CONGREGATIONS THAT IF THEY WANT MORE VOCATION. THEY SHOULD LET VOCATION BE VOCATION NOT BUSINESS AND POLITICS.
GOD CALLS AND GRANT GRACE NOT ACCORDING TO MAN .
MARTHA ROBI NGERA4:46AM October 09, 2010
While one see the data of Western countries, one may find that there are number of permanent deacons. I ponder why they cannot be ordained as priests but perhaps law of celibacy impedes it. The older people who have all the qualities can be selected for priesthood even if they are married but well settled and have no family responsibilities. In India the concept of having permanent deacons and acolyte is yet to be implemented. India is a big potential for priesthood but there is no proper promotion of priesthood. There are many willing priests who may like to work in other countries but their bishops are unwilling to leave them. It is right time that the issue of shortage of priests has to be discussed with bishops and laity and find a solution and if there is need have some change the concept of celibacy. Afterall once a person has reached certain age, the sex has no relevance for many/
anil pof IN6:25AM March 10, 2010
why bother with this argument because you are all going to have to march to mount zion at the end of days to worship the jews shalom from australia
ericof NV3:11AM July 09, 2009
I am a Roman Catholic Priest from India and I belong to the Arch diocese of Campo Grande, Brazil. Now I requested my Arch Bishop Rt.Rev.Dr.Vittorio Pavanello, SDB for leave of absence for two years during which he has concered me to do my priestly ministry anyother diocese in the world. I would like to continue my priestly ministry elsewhere and i am willing to render my service wholeheartedly to the people of God.
With prayerful wishes
Rev.Fr.Sibu Vargheese.
Rev.Fr.Sibu Vargheese8:40AM June 08, 2009
I think another possible obstacle is the lengthy commitment (8 years I think) it takes to become a Catholic priest.
SteveGof WA4:37PM January 12, 2009
the catholic church never compromises on its principles??
im sorry, but your wrong there. it compromises its principles to serve its needs. its the dogma and doctrine it will never compromise on
so who cares if torquemada barbecues jews and witches
and who cares if priests molest children and archbishops hush it all up
as long as we all believe that a man appointed by church politics is the voice of god on earth, all is well with the world.
there is no god but god and jesus christ is his son
a. p.of 2:22PM October 25, 2008
what is the procedure in getting a traveling priest to serve mass at our parish---we do not have a priest
thank you
pridence poddaof CA12:23PM June 05, 2008
The Roman Catholic Church has NEVER compromised on principles.
Your incorrect caption on the picture of a DEACON blessing a young child shopws your lack of knowledge of The Church.
The Episcopal Church has given in to the popular opinion (birth control, female priests, etc.).
These cowardly decisions, which are contradicted by Scripture, have resulted in SCHISM!!!
Michael Flemingof NY7:10PM April 26, 2008
Hi, (pardon the length)
Unfortunately for all you analysts out there, the Catholic Church has, since, its inception, defied all analysis based on the laws of nature (that is to say, roundly, common sense) because the Church is fundamentally a supernatural organization.
That is, its origin, goals, and even its methods are also almost entirely supra-sensible (that is, they cannot be completely seen or fully understood). The action of the Church is seen through the symbols it uses (for instance, in the sacraments) and the physical acts of charity it performs, but, and this is where almost all commentators and analysts go wrong, the "work" of the Church is not in the symbols or physical acts. It is wholly other, the physical acts (even the very small charities of day-to-day life for a good Catholic) are really exterior signs to a vastly deeper spiritual reality - the actions of Divine Providence. Quite awesome stuff, really, that we participate in.
So, given that, then, the external of a priest shortage is really not a "problem" as such.
To quantify it a little better, think of it this way: some of the most Catholic countries operate with a ratio of 1:7,500 priest to laity. In fact, in many areas, that number could easily be effectively 5-10x that, since priests tend to congregate (no pun intended).
America's average is 1:4,700. The very large Archdiocese of LA has 1:12,000. But, if we look at the smallish Diocese of Lincoln, NE, among the most conservative in the country, the number is closer to 1:737. Both the size of a Diocese and its orthodoxy (which are themselves related) seem to have some impact on the ratio of priests to laity - when you hit the coasts, the bulk numbers go up and the orthodoxy goes down, making the priest shortage seem that much worse.
N.B. that Mass attendance (especially on the less-orthodox Coasts) is abysmal. So, if you consider the number of priests compared to the number of good Catholics (those people who go to weekly Mass which, along with yearly confession, yearly reception of the Eucharist, and keeping the fasts, are the hallmarks of a non-lapsed Catholic), you don't see quite as dramatic a drop. So, on a more mature analysis, we did seem to have a notable hiccup in the ratio of good priests to good Catholics after Vatican II, but it seems to me its getting back on track, I think. (Thus, what we actually need is to get the huge population of lapsed Catholics laity to become actually Catholic - I surmise this would increase the vocations ratio, too, which I guestimate is a geometric relation)
But, truly, all those raw numbers don't matter - if we had hardly any non-lapsed Catholics and only a few holy Priests, that would be, for the Church-qua-Church, okay too (lousy for the rest of you, I think, but free will is a difficult thing). Try to think more along the lines of Henry V: "If we are mark'd to die, we are enow / To do our country loss; and if to live,/ The fewer men, the greater share of honour./ God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more."
Holy Mother Church, through every age and in every time has ever been active, even when it was only a single old man ready to offer his confused boy-child as a sacrifice. Or, just a couple of women and a boy at the foot of the cross of a Son of Man, dead, with his friends gone, after being unjustly crucified for blasphemy and treason against a worldly king.
Somehow, even when that's all we've got, it ends up working out.
Curious, that.
Now, I'd love to see more men going to become priests, but not at any price: certainly not at the price of proper teaching on any point, especially proper teaching-in-action. Celibacy is a sign of the Kingdom, and it is one of those teachings-in-action. That said, the discipline of celibacy for a priest is _also_ a good barrier to entry for people who aren't really serious about this stuff, for whom it is a psychological need or power trip rather than a loving, wholly self-giving response to a call from God. There are many such barriers on the path to priesthood - on purpose. Deus vult.
Oh, yes. I'm not only a client, but I'm soaking in it: I'm a Roman Catholic Diocesan seminarian, hoping one day that Holy Mother Church will call me to share Her sacrifices, Her pains and sufferings (and, perhaps, if I should merit it, Her joys), offering as a personal sacrifice the enormous good that is the possibility of a virtuous wife and the privilege of raising children and a great deal of other freedoms to do other perfectly good things, in order to better pursue God's work: that I may one day become a holy Priest, configured and united mystically to Our Lord, to stand as a living sign of the Kingdom of Heaven, so that all may "repent and believe", and have "life more abundantly" here, and "life eternal" there. To, as they say, put my money where my mouth is - or, perhaps, to put my heart where my treasure is.
(Oh, yes, and so I can get into heaven, too - we are all called to be holy, if I am called to be a priestly Father in the Roman Rite, the path to holiness is celibacy, respect and obedience to the Bishop, and certain prayer. If I am called to be a father-father, the path to holiness is marital chastity, fidelity to spouse and children (and a serious dose of prayer). If I'm called to religious life, the path is chastity, obedience, poverty and regular prayer. Seriously, for good Catholics, one way of looking at it is that life isn't t necessarily _all_ that different between the vocations - much, in fact, is the same. None of them are primarily about what one does with oneself, but rather for others and for God. That said, the differences are quite important, and good in themselves. Viva la differance!)
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MARTHA ROBI NGERA 4:49AM October 09, 2010
MARTHA ROBI NGERA 4:46AM October 09, 2010
anil p of IN 6:25AM March 10, 2010
eric of NV 3:11AM July 09, 2009
Rev.Fr.Sibu Vargheese 8:40AM June 08, 2009
SteveG of WA 4:37PM January 12, 2009
a. p. of 2:22PM October 25, 2008
pridence podda of CA 12:23PM June 05, 2008
Michael Fleming of NY 7:10PM April 26, 2008
J of MA 12:24AM April 23, 2008